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Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by HideousKojima »

Delk wrote: post #12
skocznymroczny wrote: post #5

Wish the game was remade, it has many interesting concepts, especially for its time, but the visual presentation and some gameplay elements hadn't aged well. It was an example of an early open world game. The most interesting part of the game is the first chapter. The game very directly makes you go south towards Krondor, and the path north contains some large enemy packs. But if you manage to defeat the two large en…

On the other hand, I think one of the unique(?) elements of the game was perhaps because of the rather limited visual presentation. Betrayal at Krondor uses written descriptions of events and environments a lot. It felt natural, at least to me, perhaps partially because the graphics didn't really allow for showing a lot of detail visually. Extensive voice acting wasn't really a thing in the floppy era either. Nowaday…

I've been playing through the remaster of Nier recently and there's one segment of the game where it transitions from 3d action RPG to text adventure. It's very bizarre, but you should go into any Yoko Taro game expecting bizarreness so it actually works out pretty well.

Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by bstar77 »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #5

Wish the game was remade, it has many interesting concepts, especially for its time, but the visual presentation and some gameplay elements hadn't aged well. It was an example of an early open world game. The most interesting part of the game is the first chapter. The game very directly makes you go south towards Krondor, and the path north contains some large enemy packs. But if you manage to defeat the two large en…

This is a pretty rare game for that time that didn't have much of any pixel art... it was either scanned images or rudimentary 3d. I had no idea what it was when I downloaded it off a BBS and was pleasantly surprised by the visuals. It's funny how our perspectives change over time.

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Post by luciusdomitius »

bencollier49 wrote: post #2

The book "Magician" by Raymond E. Feist, which this game came from, is a great read and interesting in as much as the book came after and grew out of a long-running RPG campaign, if I remember correctly.

It is a great book, somewhat better than the competition, but being aware of Feist in the age of Tolkien, GRRM and even the Harry Potter lady, simply means a lonely childhood hah.

Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by xen0 »

mabster wrote: post #9
bencollier49 wrote: post #2

The book "Magician" by Raymond E. Feist, which this game came from, is a great read and interesting in as much as the book came after and grew out of a long-running RPG campaign, if I remember correctly.

There's also "Krondor, The Betrayal" where he turned the game back into a book! Unfortunately not as good as his earlier works.

That trilogy (Betrayal, Assassins, Tear of the Gods) is weird. 'Krondor: The Assassins' is 'readable' at least, but is also the only one not based on a game; it can be a little more focused, although it retains it's DnD campaign style story.

Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by xen0 »

I have very fond memories of this game; I played it a lot as a child and can still probably recite a great number of the word-locks. I'm pretty sure my parents would still recognise the riddle music too, even after 20+ years.

I remember this site too and am saddened to learn of the author's passing.

It's heartwarming to see a relic such as this preserved, when so many similar things are left to disappear with the communities that made them.

Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by kemayo »

bencollier49 wrote: post #2

The book "Magician" by Raymond E. Feist, which this game came from, is a great read and interesting in as much as the book came after and grew out of a long-running RPG campaign, if I remember correctly.

Magician was the start of a reasonably entertaining sword and sorcery series. The RPG campaign roots are really visible once you pay attention, but (as far as I can remember) in a better way than, say, Dragonlance managed.

I always enjoyed the political fantasy spin-off series Daughter of the Empire by Janny Wurts more, though. :D

Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by TillE »

kemayo wrote: post #26
bencollier49 wrote: post #2

The book "Magician" by Raymond E. Feist, which this game came from, is a great read and interesting in as much as the book came after and grew out of a long-running RPG campaign, if I remember correctly.

Magician was the start of a reasonably entertaining sword and sorcery series. The RPG campaign roots are really visible once you pay attention, but (as far as I can remember) in a better way than, say, Dragonlance managed. I always enjoyed the political fantasy spin-off series Daughter of the Empire by Janny Wurts more, though. :D

Feist gets a lot of flak for being yet another Tolkien ripoff, but I think he's by far the best of the ripoffs. The first trilogy, anyway.

And yeah, the Empire trilogy is probably the best of his (co-)work.

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Post by busterarm »

xen0 wrote: post #25

I have very fond memories of this game; I played it a lot as a child and can still probably recite a great number of the word-locks. I'm pretty sure my parents would still recognise the riddle music too, even after 20+ years. I remember this site too and am saddened to learn of the author's passing. It's heartwarming to see a relic such as this preserved, when so many similar things are left to disappear with the com…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgRBXulWKXE Yep.

Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by aidenn0 »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #5

Wish the game was remade, it has many interesting concepts, especially for its time, but the visual presentation and some gameplay elements hadn't aged well. It was an example of an early open world game. The most interesting part of the game is the first chapter. The game very directly makes you go south towards Krondor, and the path north contains some large enemy packs. But if you manage to defeat the two large en…

What I don't understand is why I loved Krondor but couldn't stand Daggerfall (or any of the later Elder Scrolls games). Maybe it's just that Krondor was more focused? The chapter system certainly made it easier to know what the next "primary goal" was without restricting you too from exploring the world (at least in most of the early chapters; the last 3ish chapters were certainly more railroaded).

Re: The Betrayal at Krondor Help Web

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Post by xen0 »

kemayo wrote: post #26
bencollier49 wrote: post #2

The book "Magician" by Raymond E. Feist, which this game came from, is a great read and interesting in as much as the book came after and grew out of a long-running RPG campaign, if I remember correctly.

Magician was the start of a reasonably entertaining sword and sorcery series. The RPG campaign roots are really visible once you pay attention, but (as far as I can remember) in a better way than, say, Dragonlance managed. I always enjoyed the political fantasy spin-off series Daughter of the Empire by Janny Wurts more, though. :D

Both Silverthorn and A Darkness at Sethanon both feature a very literal party, gathering at a very literal tavern.
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