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Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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Expect a lot of Indian and Chinese developers to move here from the U.S. as the prospect of having any stability in the US basically disappears.

We’ve had about 4 developers move to Canada already. I wouldn’t be surprised if retaining these developers is one of Microsoft’s intended goals of this “HQ”.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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Well, not seeing too many here in Africa either.

> "Well, not seeing too many here in Africa either." Microsoft has recently opened a development center in Kenya.

Is it just support? Do they do dev?

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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Is this an actual HQ or just another remote office?

Sounds like it’s a “Canadian HQ”, which is probably just branding for a large remote office with country specific operations based out of there. Definitely feels like calling something an HQ is a press move though.

When I hear "HQ" I was expecting something like Amazon's HQ2. An office with a couple hundred/thousand workers is not as exciting.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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That p90 number (equivalent to 204k USD) looks like some typical SDE2 TCs in Redmond: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Microsoft/salaries/Software-E...

Or less than a junior L3 in the bay area at google.

And what does that salary get you in the bay area? Living in a tiny apartment with a homeless guy outside. No thanks.

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Transnational organized crime in Costa Rica? First time I've heard of that

Costa Rica has the same population as Metro Toronto and 15 times the rate of violent crime. It might be better than some of its neighbors but it doesn't remotely compare favorably to Europe or Canada.

And Canada likely has better reporting as well (because countries with low crime usually tend to have better reporting and countries with high crime tend to have worse), so the true difference may be even higher.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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'Bout f'n time! They've been dining on Waterloo grads for just about ever now.

Waterloo is possibly the best CS school in the world, but we keep ignoring it. (Or talking about Hamilton or Toronto or whatever and not that obvious gem in the crown.) This, too, is hilariously Canadian.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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Expect a lot of Indian and Chinese developers to move here from the U.S. as the prospect of having any stability in the US basically disappears. We’ve had about 4 developers move to Canada already. I wouldn’t be surprised if retaining these developers is one of Microsoft’s intended goals of this “HQ”.

It is true, not sure why there are downvotes.

US immigration is a mess and Canada's is delightful even if it's pissing off the locals a bit these days.

I've been saying for a while that US and Canada have been playing a zero sum game for Dev jobs. US' loss is Canada's gain.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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Yea I’m surprised how little Microsoft pays in Vancouver according to levels.fyi. If an American company paid 80% of American salary to Canadians they would have their pick of Canada’s top talent. This slowly appears to be happening with Meta jobs in Canada. Canada has the same time zones, a similar culture, is geographically close, the same language, and excellent computer science/engineering programs. What Canada d…

> What Canada doesn’t have is a strong venture capital pool, a culture of risk taking I tried to raise a ~$300k seed round in Toronto in 2014. Most Canadian investors we met with wanted to see us have something like $10k/month in recurring revenue before considering an investment. We spent a week in SF and left with a $250k offer at a $4M valuation, when we were pre-revenue! (We declined, and eventually our business…

I haven’t seen any other country that tries new things and willing to spent than the US. That includes Europe and Asia. It’s quite disappointing really because the world is so much bigger than the US alone.
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