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Re: Immigrant entrepreneur arrested to meet quotas

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I'm the son of an immigrant and married one as well, so I'm quite sympathetic....but....he has not explained why his status changed from being legally in the U.S. to some other status....

He wasn't a legal immigrant. His status never changed.

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post #7

As a kid I always wanted to go to the USA, maybe even live there. So many things to see, the business opportunities and the propagated freedom were very attractive. During the last decade though, the USA have done a fantastic job of eradicating every bit of what was left of this dream. Nowerdays all you hear from them is how Hollywood is destroying little guys' lifes for downloading a bunch of songs, exporting those…

> eradicating every bit of what was left of this dream.

I have never, ever seen a phrase so absolutely and totally full of hyperbole on this site.

Re: Immigrant entrepreneur arrested to meet quotas

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As much as I sympathise with the guy for going through all this I can't help but think that it's all his own fault.

USA, like many countries, has a strict immigration system in which you must play by the rules and follow the process to become 'legal'. Just living in the country is not enough, you must apply for residency by qualifying in some way.

Unfortunately, it's quite tough to qualify to stay in the US for most people. Skilled immigrant visas are notoriously difficult to attain (there's no simple points system like Australia for example) and so you must look to marriage to a citizen, asylum or the green card lottery. If you think marriage is the easy choice you'd be wrong too.

As someone who is going through the process right now, it can be difficult, expensive, depressing, demeaning (having to prove your relationship is 'real') and downright frustrating but right now that's the way the system works so you must work with the system. This guy obviously didn't and now he's paying the price.

Re: Immigrant entrepreneur arrested to meet quotas

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I hate to say it but from a brief reading of the information, it sounds like their asylum was first denied back in 1997, and they've been fighting it ever since. They certainly have the right to fight it, but it's been an uphill battle for almost 15 years, so the outcome certainly doesn't seem like a surprise. The person is obviously a great entrepreneur, he probably should have just left on his own accord instead of…

The point is there are rules. To come to the US you can either:

1) Apply to INS, wait in line, enter the lottery and follow the law.

2) Hop on a plane and hope they don't catch you.

He chose route 2, and is now paying the consequences. Just because he's an entrepreneur doesn't give him any more right to be here then any other would be immigrant, and it certainly doesn't give him the right to jump the line

Re: Immigrant entrepreneur arrested to meet quotas

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post #23
post #7

As a kid I always wanted to go to the USA, maybe even live there. So many things to see, the business opportunities and the propagated freedom were very attractive. During the last decade though, the USA have done a fantastic job of eradicating every bit of what was left of this dream. Nowerdays all you hear from them is how Hollywood is destroying little guys' lifes for downloading a bunch of songs, exporting those…

> eradicating every bit of what was left of this dream. I have never, ever seen a phrase so absolutely and totally full of hyperbole on this site.

Why?

That's his feeling, it is whatever he writes.

Whether it is full of hyperbole or not is not knowable, he'd have to admit to that himself or you'd have to scan his brain.

Re: Immigrant entrepreneur arrested to meet quotas

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post #12

I'm the son of an immigrant and married one as well, so I'm quite sympathetic....but....he has not explained why his status changed from being legally in the U.S. to some other status....

He wasn't a legal immigrant. His status never changed.

From the post, that is not clear. It opens with "After living legally in the United States for over 20 years [...]"

From the case file, however, it seems like they entered with a J-1 visa and before their authorization to stay expired, they applied for asylum.

Re: Immigrant entrepreneur arrested to meet quotas

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post #19

An interesting factoid. There is no legal way for anyone to just come to US and make it their home country. Say someone from Africa or South America. They can't simply save enough money, get on a plane, land at JFK and then after 10 years or whatever time become citizens. They would have to be persecuted in a terrible way before being granted asylum, have to marry a US citizen, find a company that would hire them. I…

That goes for lots of countries.

They want you to apply from the outside.

In Canada for instance that can get really funny, where applying from within Canada for a European is only possible by applying in the United States (Buffalo, for instance).

Within Canada there is no office that can deal with your application.

Re: Immigrant entrepreneur arrested to meet quotas

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He wasn't a legal immigrant. His status never changed.

From the post, that is not clear. It opens with "After living legally in the United States for over 20 years [...]" From the case file, however, it seems like they entered with a J-1 visa and before their authorization to stay expired, they applied for asylum.

As long as you are in the process you are there legally.

Weird but that's how it works. Only after your deportation order has been issued and you do not contest it for an X number of days does it become final and then you have to leave.

If you are still in the country past that date you become an illegal and you can be deported. In the meantime you can basically continue with your life. But you are building on quicksand.

I think this man made the mistake of reasoning that he's useful to society so therefore society would welcome him.

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