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Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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just seems like another radio song to me. not much emotion in it, so it's not really believable. glad it's bringing some unity tho.

I'm not an expert here, but my understanding is that South Asian pop music tends to be (primarily) based on non-Western music theories like Hindustani classical music. These theories have different ideas of which emotions are associated with which keys or scales.

Assuming you're not familiar with Hindustani classical music, it's quite possible you're just not picking up on some of it, while many South Asians who grew up on it do understand it (even if they haven't had formal training.)

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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Title is click bait. Coke Studio has done this several times. Mainstream Pakistani songs are quite different from Indian songs, however, both populations can understand what is being sung. Mixing the two together results in incredible music. Pakistan and India still hate each other. No music is about to unite them after 1000s years of history and polar opposite religions.

> Coke Studio has done this several times.

This is the first time in 5 years that they have hit over 100M views in Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/c/cokestudio/videos?view=0&sort=p&fl...

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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Title is click bait. Coke Studio has done this several times. Mainstream Pakistani songs are quite different from Indian songs, however, both populations can understand what is being sung. Mixing the two together results in incredible music. Pakistan and India still hate each other. No music is about to unite them after 1000s years of history and polar opposite religions.

I have Indian and Pakistani friends and, I promise you, music unites them/us.

Sorry to dissappoint.

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Coca-Cola Conde Nast. Vanguard. Black Rock. And journalists that write click-bait titles and little substance that provides content reflecting the title. The real question is why are we seeing this here on HN?

Maybe hackers appreciate the power of music. "Anybody practicing the fine art of composing music, no matter how cynical or greedy or scared, still can't help serving all humanity. Music makes practically everybody fonder of life than he or she would be without it. Even military bands, although I am a pacifist, always cheer me up. - Kurt Vonnegut" Coca Cola and other junk-food corporations latch on to art and artists…

This is just a puff piece though, an ad for a song and its corporate backers.

I agree we'd find a 'united' India & Pakistan very interesting and newsworthy, and especially anything that credited music or anything else superficially surprising with it; but that hasn't happened and that isn't what this ad is.

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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Title is click bait. Coke Studio has done this several times. Mainstream Pakistani songs are quite different from Indian songs, however, both populations can understand what is being sung. Mixing the two together results in incredible music. Pakistan and India still hate each other. No music is about to unite them after 1000s years of history and polar opposite religions.

This is a false understanding of the differences between the two countries (actually 3, Bangladesh is also part of this shared culture). It's not 1000s of years of history being opposed to each other but 1000 years of shared history and culture. The differences have only arisen in the last 100 years or so.

Pakistanis share common languages with only a part of India, the main languages being Hindi/Urdu and Punjabi. India also has roughly the same number of muslims as there are people in Pakistan. People outside of the Hindi belt in India might not speak Hindi/Urdu or Punjabi, regardless of their religious identity. Historically speaking, people of the subcontinent have identified more with their ethno-linguistic identity than with their religious identity, no matter what the politics of these countries as well as the talking points of the politicians of these countries might make you feel. Evidence of this fact can be seen in the reasons for the existence of Bangladesh as a country. They separated from West Pakistan on the basis of their Bengali Identity. Similarly in India today, there is a strong movement in South India against the imposition of the Hindi language.

When it comes to music, there are two broad schools of classical music, Hindustani Classical that is from the North of India and now Pakistan, and Carnatic music that is predominantly from the South of India. Hindustani Classical music has always had a shared contribution from Pakistani and Indian signers. Many Pakistani singers (such as Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, and Atif Aslam) have contributed significantly to this school, as well as to modern Bollywood music, and there are many such artists in India as well (such as Zakir Hussein). Many Indian lyricists write Hindi/Urdu songs for Bollywood as well (such as Gulzar).

Arguably music and arts have always unified the two countries while other factors have caused rifts.

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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post #23

Title is click bait. Coke Studio has done this several times. Mainstream Pakistani songs are quite different from Indian songs, however, both populations can understand what is being sung. Mixing the two together results in incredible music. Pakistan and India still hate each other. No music is about to unite them after 1000s years of history and polar opposite religions.

I have Indian and Pakistani friends and, I promise you, music unites them/us. Sorry to dissappoint.

Exactly. See my other comment explaining the nuances.

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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post #23

Title is click bait. Coke Studio has done this several times. Mainstream Pakistani songs are quite different from Indian songs, however, both populations can understand what is being sung. Mixing the two together results in incredible music. Pakistan and India still hate each other. No music is about to unite them after 1000s years of history and polar opposite religions.

I have Indian and Pakistani friends and, I promise you, music unites them/us. Sorry to dissappoint.

Both Indians and Pakistanis realize just how much they have in common once they leave their respective countries. Just don't let religions or politics divide people!

Not a fan of this song but there are other Coke Studio songs that I love. For instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjaH2iuoYWE

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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India and Pakistan are the same people and the same culture. as far as I understand, and from my own far away position (combined with "nearsightedness"), it seems to me like the India-Pakistan division was made up when the english pulled out of there.

I sense something similar to Korean culture being broken up into north and south. of course in all cases there's a local power helping... but the real drive for the split are foreign powers

Re: Writer and musician Ali Sethi has created an unconventional hit with “Pasoori”

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No offence to the author, but to give a song that was part of Coke Studio Pakistan the credit of uniting India and Pakistan is quite silly. Coke Studio is almost exclusively listened to only by the urban-ites in India, and Coke Studio Pakistan has even smaller listening audience in India [1]. A quick check of Youtube to see the current trending songs shows a lot of national and regional music, but no mention of this…

Well it does have 100M+ views, so somebody is watching it.
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