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Edward Snowden in Hindsight

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Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

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This is like saying that somebody who devoted half their life doing charity work should be shamed for not doing the same with the other half. Not even taking into account what we know about the situation he has put himself in by becoming an exile, and much more importantly, what we don't know.

I am appalled and disgusted by this thoughtless post.

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#23

Snowden defected to China, then Russia. He is neither a hero nor a patriot in my book. While the programs he identified may have been bad for democracy and America, it was not his place to blow the whistle, and he went about it in such a shady, criminal way that I can never forgive him.

At least according to Snowden he raised concerns through official channels. Clapper perjuring himself in front of Congress in response proves that the NSA values its unconstitutional dragnets more than the people's freedom from unreasonable search.

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#24
It's easy to ask for Snowden to be more vocal against the Russian government when you are not a) in Russia, b) treated as a terrorist by your country and c) in the constant fear of Russia dropping their support for you. The man just became a father, cut him some slack, he lost everything once.

For us this means taking what Snowden has to say about the Russian government with a bucket of salt.

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#25

Snowden defected to China, then Russia. He is neither a hero nor a patriot in my book. While the programs he identified may have been bad for democracy and America, it was not his place to blow the whistle, and he went about it in such a shady, criminal way that I can never forgive him.

Wrong. He never defected to China. He travelled to Hong Kong to share the info with journalists and went from there to Russia.

And it was absolutely his place to do that, just as it's everyone's place to protect democracy and do what is right. Can you suggest how the system itself would have otherwise disclosed those abuses?

He doesn't need your forgiveness, but he deserves your appreciation.

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#26
The military is the most popular entity in any country, (except when they are actively and publicly engaging in internal indiscriminate genocide). If you speak against it you'll be a very lone voice and you'll very soon find yourself socially isolated and without allies, which is exactly what happened to Snowden.

Even at the very extremes such as Abu Grahib the population attacked George W. not the military.

Snowden overestimated the potency of the material that he leaked, if the public didn't turn against the military for Abu Grahib then his material wouldn't have cut it either.

In order for whistleblowing to work and for the whistleblower to be safe and continue living a normal social life, it has to be political in nature, it has to be a hit to the reputation of a political or social leader who is already dancing around 50% or less approval rating and always in danger of falling off the cliff (like Nixon, Trump, Bill Clinton or given the current partisanship any future POTUS).

If you blew the whistle on Nixon then you had the whole left embrace you and protect you, if you blew the whistle on Bill Clinton affair, all of the sudden the right would love you.

Snowden managed to piss off both the left and the right so he had to escape to Russia, of course he won't repeat the same mistake again

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#27
I believe the reason Snowden isn't saying much is not because he can't find a VPN, but because the Russians can read his Twitter account and Substack and they know where he lives. Also, he has a family.

I mean, come on, how do you think it works? As long as he lives there, he's not free to criticize Russia. And what's the benefit? Many other people are doing that already.

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#28

Snowden defected to China, then Russia. He is neither a hero nor a patriot in my book. While the programs he identified may have been bad for democracy and America, it was not his place to blow the whistle, and he went about it in such a shady, criminal way that I can never forgive him.

> While the programs he identified may have been bad for democracy and America

The fact that you even use such qualified language to describe mass surveillance of the entire civilian population shows just how far your Stockholm Syndrome has led you to identify with our predatory government and ruling institutions.

You know who else was shady and criminal? All the planners, bureaucrats, functionaries, and even code monkeys who built the NSA's dragnet in the first place. But I'm sure we'll never hear a peep about them from you.

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#29

For potential whistleblowers: there are legal avenues to expose wrongdoing. http://whistlebloweraid.org offers free representation to those navigating the process, founded by a (legal) NSA whistleblower.

If even Congress cannot compel the head of the NSA--under threat of perjury--to publicly admit to an illegal dragnet then what chance does this organization have?

Re: Edward Snowden in Hindsight

#30

> During his time in Russia, we have seen the whistleblower system work effectively here at home. The details of Trump’s Ukraine call, and the subsequent freezing of security aid seems rather relevant today. More impressively so, this same whistleblower system Snowden criticized worked against a sitting president having no capacity for restraint. It's just laughable to believe that "the system works" because certain…

"The system works" when it benefits globalists and harms populists. When the system benefits populists and harms globalists, it is dangerously outdated and needs to be completely overhauled or abolished.

Social media was a tool to usher in a new era of freedom during the Arab Spring, which produced Egyptian students eager for a communist government. Right about the time Donald Trump's candidacy became serious, social media became a dangerous weapon of radicalization that needed to be strictly regulated by the government.

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