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Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by moritonal »

kuroguro wrote: post #13
UweSchmidt wrote: post #2

Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

I used to just solo explore nullsec. Found something very zen about planning routes, scanning and sneaking past players to not get blown up (still happened a lot). Ended up joining a newbie corp as the return trip to sell stuff often wasn't worth it. They had a hauling corp that offered buyback for most items. Still played solo for the most part. People kept telling me that I'm playing the game wrong FWIW but not par…

Did you read about the player who tried to visit every system without dying? Seems you both have the same mindset.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by flexd »

jereees wrote: post #16

A much better title: Eve Online strategy game announces JavaScript API to export user data. The current title is misleading and clickbaity. There’s no Excel features inside the game, heck it’s not even a CSV API.

There is a extensive JSON API available here [1], which I'm assuming this Excel API will make use of. And we already have this functionality in Google Sheets, so it's not exactly something new. It will be good to see more use of the API though, and interesting to see if they maintain this in the years to come. Perhaps them making a Excel extension will cause them to spend some time fixing all the things that have been broken with the API for a long time [2].

[1] https://esi.evetech.net/ui/ [2] https://github.com/esi/esi-issues/issues

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

hutzlibu wrote: post #11
trelliscoded wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s absolutely worth it for the people you’ll meet playing the game. I’m in Iceland right now for the annual player meeting and it’s been a blast. Many alliances have internal tools which interface with the game and external crowdsourced market data, and it’s common knowledge that those tools are better than real world logistics software, so working on them is a great way to learn how to build relevant products.

" and it’s common knowledge that those tools are better than real world logistics software" I don't know if this is true, but it would tell a lot about this world we are living in.

It tells that the things you do for passion are nicer, and better, than the things you do for money. Which makes sense.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by gabereiser »

moritonal wrote: post #20
gabereiser wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I played it from launch until around 2010 or so. Is it worth it? No. Is there a good alternative? No. EVE Online always had an element of spreadsheets to it. It was designed that way. The original game design was done inside excel. Personally I find it fascinating that CCP didn’t build their own spreadsheet functionality into the game considering how many players used spreadsheets to calculate mining yield returns, i…

The X4 series is a comparable (but weaker given the lack of human element) single player alternative experience.

Correct. The multiplayer aspect of EVE is unmatched, even to this day. X4 (really the series) is a good alternative if you want a SP experience. The AI wasn't that good though.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by kizer »

TheaomBen wrote: post #15
hutzlibu wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" and it’s common knowledge that those tools are better than real world logistics software" I don't know if this is true, but it would tell a lot about this world we are living in.

I actually got into software/systems engineering working on internal software for "minor" player groups in EVE. The level of integration[0] those orgs had 10+ years ago outranks 80% of my current real-world clients in terms of discoverability, documentation and depth. I mean that's what you get from a bunch of eve-playing nerds committing to a labor of love. Best projects I've ever had. [0] Real time updating mining…

This is wild. I had no idea the game was like this. Now I’m feeling inspired to finish that browser strategy game I started a few years ago.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by Recursing »

jereees wrote: post #16

A much better title: Eve Online strategy game announces JavaScript API to export user data. The current title is misleading and clickbaity. There’s no Excel features inside the game, heck it’s not even a CSV API.

At 2:06:29 In the video https://youtu.be/ri6eTeCBUww?t=7586 they mention "With Microsoft we're building an extension that will allow players to log in and pull data directly into Excel"

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by ixwt »

matt321 wrote: post #17

Aurora4X (you're welcome). Similar to the idea of EVE ONLINE but much more indepth without the pesky things like graphics. Calling all Hackers: Lets make an open source Aurora4X style came that's played online.

Not open source, but is Prosperous Universe something similar?

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by causi »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #2

Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

In my opinion it was until it became easy and "legal" to exchange dollars for in-game currency via Plex Passes. It not only creates the constant temptation to just buy your losses back rather than playing but lets you assign a dollar value to everything you do. I played for five years but I quit after I calculated I was grinding for $1.72/hr.

EVE absolutely has the potential for incredible experiences but that tainted the authenticity for me in a way I could never shake off.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by Jenk »

gabereiser wrote: post #14
UweSchmidt wrote: post #2

Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

I played it from launch until around 2010 or so. Is it worth it? No. Is there a good alternative? No. EVE Online always had an element of spreadsheets to it. It was designed that way. The original game design was done inside excel. Personally I find it fascinating that CCP didn’t build their own spreadsheet functionality into the game considering how many players used spreadsheets to calculate mining yield returns, i…

> The only area of EVE where spreadsheets go out the window is war.

Not if you include all of the ship setup calculations, POS and Capitals efficiency, etc.

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