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Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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my doctor and I had a recent discussion about exactly this. Just incredibly bizarre behavior from people with no explanation. I asked if it could be caused by parasites. She brought up a study in LA where they tested the homeless for Babesia, and many people tested positive. Sorry I did not get the link for this study, but it is plausible. I'm not even sure how we can as a society even address this. One of the treatments is now so politically polarized during the pandemic, even mentioning it out loud is a conversation killer.

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> they arent checking people with worms because nobody knows they have worms, thanks to the state of our healthcare

I have decent healthcare. I don’t think I’ve been explicitly checked for worms recently. Maybe in the bloodwork?

This is honestly one of the better ivermectin hypotheses I’ve come across. It doesn’t deserve to be downvoted, particularly within the context of the article, which set a low bar for evidence.

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> they arent checking people with worms because nobody knows they have worms, thanks to the state of our healthcare I have decent healthcare. I don’t think I’ve been explicitly checked for worms recently. Maybe in the bloodwork? This is honestly one of the better ivermectin hypotheses I’ve come across. It doesn’t deserve to be downvoted, particularly within the context of the article, which set a low bar for evidence…

Thanks, I was thinking about rewording it because it hits trigger words so fast

People react to that and cant even process the rest verbatim

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Make sense or nah? Nah. Hard nah. I don't quite understand how you went from, "I'm an enthusiastic researcher who enjoys..." to, "Ivermectin works on Republicans because Republicans live in squalor so they have worms but we don't know if Ivermectin actually works against COVID or not because our healthcare system sucks."

We know that ivermectin doesnt work on covid, it works on worms People with worms only notice they have a problem after getting sick with covid How did you read that differently Read it again

That's a minor detail that I, admittedly, got incorrect while paraphrasing you but ultimately doesn't change the crux of my point.

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

#25

I have no proof (or way to test this), but I’ve thought for a while that some pathogen has infected a good number of people, and damaged their brains. I find it hard to understand many people’s transition into madness any other way. I am not talking about “I believe bubble up economics you believe trickle down so you’re crazy” kind of disagreements, I mean stuff like “lizard people from planet nibiru are eating the c…

I don’t think it’s new, just more visible than it used to be.

When I was a teenager, I took the New Age/occult section of the bookstore seriously[0]. It feels silly in retrospect, but it’s not really any weirder than the religious beliefs I was brought up with, nor the presence of horoscopes in all the newspapers and advertised elsewhere without getting banned under the Fraudulent Mediums Act 1951, nor the then-new National Lottery being shown with a regular segment by a fortune teller called Mystic Meg, nor the endless TV shows about ancient aliens and ghosts and telepathy, and you might be surprised how long people continued to say crop circles “had to be supernatural” after their secret was revealed to be two blokes and a stick.

Edit: Oh, and my mum insisted on handing out homeopathic sand and white paint pigment[2]. And the Bach flower remedies “for memory” (she got Alzheimer’s 20 years younger than her mum). Plus all the stuff about crystal powers, dowsing rods, the whole caboodle.

[0] So, naturally I tried the shape-shifting turn-yourself-into-a-werewolf spell I found online[1], and now I’m a furry.

[1] The original website is long gone, but this looks like the same text I saw 25 years ago: http://www.paganlibrary.com/rituals_spells/russian_shifting_...

[2] No, seriously: https://homeopathicremediesonline.com/product/titanium-oxyda...

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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post #21

my doctor and I had a recent discussion about exactly this. Just incredibly bizarre behavior from people with no explanation. I asked if it could be caused by parasites. She brought up a study in LA where they tested the homeless for Babesia, and many people tested positive. Sorry I did not get the link for this study, but it is plausible. I'm not even sure how we can as a society even address this. One of the treatm…

Out of curiosity, what is the treatment?

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

#27
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We know that ivermectin doesnt work on covid, it works on worms People with worms only notice they have a problem after getting sick with covid How did you read that differently Read it again

That's a minor detail that I, admittedly, got incorrect while paraphrasing you but ultimately doesn't change the crux of my point.

Its about a crossover and assumption error in the models

The patient and their doctor are assuming the wrong thing and coincidentally get a nice result

And the people trying to make a controlled review are assuming the wrong thing

Its a dewormer acting as a dewormer and thats actually saving people’s lives, would be useful policy wise to acknowledge why that is, instead of invalidating that group of people

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

#29

I have no proof (or way to test this), but I’ve thought for a while that some pathogen has infected a good number of people, and damaged their brains. I find it hard to understand many people’s transition into madness any other way. I am not talking about “I believe bubble up economics you believe trickle down so you’re crazy” kind of disagreements, I mean stuff like “lizard people from planet nibiru are eating the c…

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Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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> they arent checking people with worms because nobody knows they have worms, thanks to the state of our healthcare I have decent healthcare. I don’t think I’ve been explicitly checked for worms recently. Maybe in the bloodwork? This is honestly one of the better ivermectin hypotheses I’ve come across. It doesn’t deserve to be downvoted, particularly within the context of the article, which set a low bar for evidence…

The "rural squalor" assumption doesn't help with the downvotes. That's a fairly derogatory blanket generalization, and whether or not statistics back OP up they could choose better verbiage.
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