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Please stop disabling zoom

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Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#21
post #7

But then the website might not look like the designer's glistening perfect vision, that only ever worked properly in their browser on their desktop in the first place.

The reason this is done is to get rid of extra latency when processing user input. I guess detecting zoom gestures needs some time to distinguish them from normal clicks?

I wonder if it helps them detect when I leave and go search for something that works.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#22
My pet theory: I'm pretty sure this is because when HTML5 became a thing, some major tech blog showed us what an HTML5 page would look like (simplified doctype, meta charset) and they included the viewport settings that disabled zoom.

Then pretty much everyone copied from these guides, and here we are. I remember I had used HTML5 skeleton templates for a while before I learned that the "maximum-scale=1, user-scalable=no" they came with is not a good idea.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#23
post #5

Looks like a user agent concern.

No. Sometimes it's good to disable zoom (e. g. in web apps that function as a big canvas, like Figma). Pages should use the feature correctly. People shouldn't have to fiddle with browser settings just because someone can't CSS properly.

If there's one thing that's true about web design, it's that pages won't use the feature correctly, no matter what the feature is.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#25
post #2

It’s not just accessibility. I’ve last track of the number of times I’ve seen a mobile website with a table that extends past the right side of the viewport and zoom disabled. You can’t scroll, and you can’t zoom, so you can’t read the table.

This is a constant issue for me (Chrome on Android) on GMail's Web UI (yes, I insist on using the Web UI...). So many emails are entirely unreadable since they go right off the right side, and you can't zoom.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#26
100% agree. I'd like to be able to tell mobile Safari to just ignore that setting. Maybe there's a way and I missed it. Wouldn't be surprised, these old eyeballs aren't what they used to be and that exactly why I want zoom to always work. Some of us actually need it.

Heck, back when I bought my mother her first iPad, this was the whole reason. She was getting eye surgery and wouldn't be able to see well, and would be stuck face-down for a couple weeks. I figured an iPad would be good, because she could pinch-zoom so the letters were two inches tall if necessary. It was a roaring success, but zoom=false defeats that.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#27
post #10

Can we edit the title to be "Please, stop disabling zoom" so that it doesn't look like this is about the Zoom product

Good catch. Fixed!

It still absolutely sounds like the Zoom product. :)

How about: "Please, stop preventing mobile users from using the zoom function"

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#28
post #2

It’s not just accessibility. I’ve last track of the number of times I’ve seen a mobile website with a table that extends past the right side of the viewport and zoom disabled. You can’t scroll, and you can’t zoom, so you can’t read the table.

Unfortunately people see accessibility as a burden that a small minority puts on the rest of us, but really it is something that benefits everyone. For instance, normally sighted people or even people with "normal" nearsightedness, farsightedness, or presbyopia benefit from adequate contrast. Text "size" is another thing because people should be able to control it, particularly given the wide range of different devic…

> Unfortunately people see accessibility as a burden that a small minority puts on the rest of us, but really it is something that benefits everyone

Depends on the individual case — I’ve seen entire projects get scrapped because it wouldn’t be feasible to make an “accessible” version. Some things just aren’t work for everyone and that’s okay.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

#30
There's got to be some theory to balance aesthetics and readability.

I used to get into terrible arguments with a business partner about every web page I made. He'd say "the text is too big" or "the text is too small" and I'd point out that you shouldn't ever complain about that because you can use Ctrl + and Ctrl -.

I am thinking about UIs that work across desktop and mobile and would love to make peace with the scaling issues once and for all.

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