My family is kinda addicted, so addicted, we ended up not talking anymore because someone wanted a perfect shot off the eifel tower and it wasn't goid enough, even worse when there has to be made pictures of food and whatever.
Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]
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#22My entirely anecdotal impression as a high school teacher is that media (in general, often but not always “social” media) is doing an exceptional job of sucking up teenagers’ every waking moment that is not actively demanded to be focused on something else. It’s pleasure without joy. Ennui without boredom.
Their social skills (and social interest) appear markedly reduced even compared to even five years ago. So many of them struggle to articulate any kind of positive vision for themselves/their lives unless they have lucked into a passion or have family that pushes.
They’re still teens. Funny and moody and confused, but their heads really are in their smartphones all the time.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
watch at 9:20 mark. He starts with “We have this idea diversity is good, and diversity has many good effects, “BUT .. “
I think you are taking what he is saying out of context and being very dishonest about it. He is not talking about diversity meaning he doesn't want different races or sexualities involved in the country. He is talking about the extreme fracturing of groups that is driven by social media. I see this in my everyday life. Browsing any forum, almost every view expressed by any person is polarized to some side. However,…
Direct quote !
“ We have this idea diversity is good, and diversity has many good effects, but diversity also makes things come apart for a large secular nation like the United States what are the forces holding us together, what are the things blowing us apart, diversity makes group more creative when you have good norms..”
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#24Man. Those charts are dire. I'm not entirely sure how much social media is to blame, but it certainly can't be helping. It's certainly pretty telling that most people when asked seem to innately know that social media is bad for them. However, I find the proposal here kinda lame: - Mandate academic access and fund research - Ban young children from social media or create a "suitable environment for them" We all basic…
Personally I think it looks like going back to when your online and offline identities were totally separate. Inhabiting the internet under your real name is living in two different worlds with two different rulesets and pretending the same identity is well-suited to both. 100% of your online identity was under your control in my day. You were exactly who you chose to be. Not anymore. Now if you're ugly, fat, gay, a…
> Personally I think it looks like going back to when your online and offline identities were totally separate.
Even this backfired at me when I was dating. Everything is completely separate and I get misjudged entirely.
But maybe I'm talking to the wrong people, but a lot of people are kinda the same in that regard.
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#25Is it social media? Or is it also the knowledge that they effectively have no future. Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially.
> Is it social media?
They do cite a number of randomized controlled trials that show it's social media: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w-HOfseF2wF9YIpXwUUtP65-...
> Or is it also the knowledge that they effectively have no future. Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially.
As a side note, "problems occurring" do not mean "they effectively have no future".
Speaking as still a young person, these are problems the last generation has left us. But they're their problems; hold overs from the generations best known for their blood lead levels. We'll fix them and, with any luck, we'll be better ancestors to our children. I'd rather you not throw us over the boat yet.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you clarify exactly how he suggests "diversity is bad" - linking off to a 20 minute video and saying "its in there" isn't exactly great for discussion.
watch at 9:20 mark. He starts with “We have this idea diversity is good, and diversity has many good effects, “BUT .. “
That doesn't sound so unreasonable.
Murder is bad, BUT there are very limited circumstances when it may be morally justifiable (eg.: to save one's own life).
Context is important.
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#27This topic is something that's been generating a lot of hot takes recently. Personally I think the way to solve it is teaching people to be more mindful of their own emotions.
e.g. if seeing someone's artificial presentation of their life on social media makes someone feel bad, they should be aware of the causal link. The upcoming generation should know how to regulate their own social media diet.
There's so much nastiness on the internet, so many lies. I think that if the upcoming generation isn't aware of this then we're playing with fire as a society
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#28I think a lot of us in other generations are part of the same trends
I used to laugh at fidget spinners and everything gen z, then I tried formal education again, taking a class for a semester and oh my god the first couple sessions were really difficult! It immediately clicked with me that we - at least I - am not exempt from deteriorated concentration. I’m acclimated to the creative and less-structured demands of getting things done on time, and being rewarded for that. But pretending to pay attention for hours and not do anything because its noticeable and rude and punishable? That was very different. A couple weeks into the class I was fine and patient. But the first few sessions were fidget inducing.
I don't think a lot of us know. We aren't in the same environment.
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#29Everyone’s mental health is plummeting and social media is why.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you are taking what he is saying out of context and being very dishonest about it. He is not talking about diversity meaning he doesn't want different races or sexualities involved in the country. He is talking about the extreme fracturing of groups that is driven by social media. I see this in my everyday life. Browsing any forum, almost every view expressed by any person is polarized to some side. However,…
Direct quote ! “ We have this idea diversity is good, and diversity has many good effects, but diversity also makes things come apart for a large secular nation like the United States what are the forces holding us together, what are the things blowing us apart, diversity makes group more creative when you have good norms..”
I think rather than interpreting this charitably, as you probably should, you may be giving his text extra meaning beyond what he intended.