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Tailscale raises $100M

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Re: Tailscale raises $100M

#21
post #6

This sounds just creepy that they are suggesting no more anonymity on the internet... as a "fix".

What a strange and utterly incorrect way to interpret Tailscale's mission.

It's not their "mission" but it is their system. If you have a static IP address where "...the address migrated around the world with you..." how do you think that will work for people that _NEED_ anonymity?

Will they be left out of this new internet?

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

#22
As I’ve said in a past thread for another product (oxide), I LOVE Tailscale and am really happy for the team for their well earned growth and success.

However this is the path that could move them towards being pressured to add a bunch of bloat, followed by acquisition pressure and a big payout that will likely eventually cause the product to stagnate after the founding team leaves and the buyers don't care.

I really hope they’re all already rich enough that they aren’t tempted by that. :-)

Update: altered content to add more speculative version.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

#23
post #9

With such a huge investment comes the obligation to eventually pay it back. Is this another one of my favourite tools going the way of Dropbox, 1Password and all other companies that were formed around what should be a platform feature, which took on way too large investment sums and were eventually forced to become the everything, losing sight of their core values? I sincerely hope not, but there's so much bad prece…

I haven't really felt like 1Password's product materially strayed from the original mission. If anything, I'm even more delighted with the team functionality, shared vaults, quick keyboard access in 1Password 8, etc.

I wouldn't put them in the Dropbox bucket.

Also, I think the value Tailscale provides is fairly unique and far from obviously a platform feature like file storage and perhaps even password management.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

#27
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a strange and utterly incorrect way to interpret Tailscale's mission.

From the website: What if we all just had a static IP address, and a DNS name? …and the address migrated around the world with you? …and you could connect to any of your devices no matter where they were? Does this not promote the destruction of anonymity on the Internet?

I think you've got a fundamental misunderstanding of what Tailscale does. It's all about accessing your own devices. You don't need or want anonymity in that case. They are not a general purpose VPN service, and can't even be used as one.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

#28
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a strange and utterly incorrect way to interpret Tailscale's mission.

From the website: What if we all just had a static IP address, and a DNS name? …and the address migrated around the world with you? …and you could connect to any of your devices no matter where they were? Does this not promote the destruction of anonymity on the Internet?

No? The fact that some machines (notably: all your _own devices_) need to be able to reliably talk to each other does nothing to impact anonymity on the Internet. Sure, you can route everything out of your own IP using Tailscale also, and that might be desirable if you're on a crappy connection, but it's still completely orthogonal to privacy-preserving techniques like Tor (and may in fact make those easier to deploy).

Tailscale doesn't make privacy worse any more than the fact that to a first approximation, no residential Internet provider in the US has rotated an IP in recent memory.

(Disclosure: I'm a (small) investor via Latacora's sibling fund, Lagomorphic.)

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

#29
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a strange and utterly incorrect way to interpret Tailscale's mission.

It's not their "mission" but it is their system. If you have a static IP address where "...the address migrated around the world with you..." how do you think that will work for people that _NEED_ anonymity? Will they be left out of this new internet?

Tailscale is for accessing your own devices, it's not a general purpose VPN service. Anonymity is not a factor.
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