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Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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Stop whining and vote with your feet. If you're talented enough to work for Apple, there are plenty of other wonderful companies out there that will happily let you work remotely. Not every company needs to have the exact same policies on everything.

If enough people will vote with their feet, Apple will be a full remote company by the end of the year :D

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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post #14

and will lead to a "younger, whiter, more male-dominated, more neuro-normative, more able-bodied" I mean, they're just asking you to come to the building 3 days a week.

Please think for a second about how a WFH policy might impact some groups more than others.

Could you, please, give your point of view on it? This is something I never thought about.

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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post #16

Stop whining and vote with your feet. If you're talented enough to work for Apple, there are plenty of other wonderful companies out there that will happily let you work remotely. Not every company needs to have the exact same policies on everything.

“The first time you have an argument with your spouse, you should get a divorce”

Is what you’re saying here.

They’re trying to make company changes to improve their relationship with someone they like to work for, without using the nuclear option.

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please think for a second about how a WFH policy might impact some groups more than others.

Could you, please, give your point of view on it? This is something I never thought about.

https://hbr.org/2020/06/working-from-home-while-black

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/10/health/remote-work-disabiliti...

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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post #14

and will lead to a "younger, whiter, more male-dominated, more neuro-normative, more able-bodied" I mean, they're just asking you to come to the building 3 days a week.

> I mean, they're just asking you to come to the building 3 days a week.

Which is only possible for people who live in the same hemisphere as the building and have citizenship or visa.

Remote work is international work.

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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post #14

and will lead to a "younger, whiter, more male-dominated, more neuro-normative, more able-bodied" I mean, they're just asking you to come to the building 3 days a week.

Please think for a second about how a WFH policy might impact some groups more than others.

Weren’t a lot of these people already working from the office before COVID? Do you know if Apple’s workforce change significantly in composition to include more of the grouops you refer to during the WFH period?

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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Just because a tool is great for working remotely does not mean remote working is good. Turkey marketing its drones as great for war does not mean Turkey is being hypocritical for saying that war isn’t good.

> Just because a tool is great for working remotely does not mean remote working is good. So lets say Apple doesn't believe "remote working" is good in general. Why would they be building tools for something they don't think is good?

money?

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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post #16

Stop whining and vote with your feet. If you're talented enough to work for Apple, there are plenty of other wonderful companies out there that will happily let you work remotely. Not every company needs to have the exact same policies on everything.

>"Stop whining and vote with your feet."

If this is a deal breaker, yes. But this kind of approach is a last resort. Why shouldn't someone try to influence company policy before taking such a drastic step?

Re: Apple employees criticize work-from-home policy in open letter

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There’s a big difference between what’s needed to design and build something and what’s needed to use something. I hope Tim Cook fires all these whiners.

They aren’t being fired for having different opinions. They are being fired for (a) essentially explicitly stating they are not gonna do a good job working in the way the company thinks its employees should be working (b) trying to get the company to change through “open letters” through the press. Both (a) and (b) are reasons for firing on their own. It has nothing to do with differing opinions. It’s like me telling…

>>They aren’t being fired for having different opinions.Just to be clear, no one mentioned anything about anyone being fired in the article that I could see. There is a return to the office mandate for two days a week, so I guess if you just don't show up for work two days a week, yeah, you'll be fired but that's a different thing.

In an anonymous poll given (article linked below) there were quite a few employees who stated they were going to look for remote jobs and quit.

https://fortune.com/2022/05/02/apple-workers-unhappy-return-...

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