I’m honestly really blown away by this. Are there other such tools out there that do a similar thing?
Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
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Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#22I've been using Hasura and TablePlus a lot lately, and actually wished for something that combines them. Hasura is great at understanding relations and making joins feel effortless and TablePlus is so good at making table editing feel as fast as excel. This looks like it's the thing, with some extra power thrown on top (formulas and nested layouts are nice!). The UI looks drab, but maybe that's ok? It means the funct…
Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#23I've been using Hasura and TablePlus a lot lately, and actually wished for something that combines them. Hasura is great at understanding relations and making joins feel effortless and TablePlus is so good at making table editing feel as fast as excel. This looks like it's the thing, with some extra power thrown on top (formulas and nested layouts are nice!). The UI looks drab, but maybe that's ok? It means the funct…
+1 for TablePlus! I absolutely love them for the fast editing as well as quick and dirty filters. Beats typing SQL for simple stuff. These quality of life features are really underrated. Absolutely worth the yearly fee!
Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#24Here’s some more information on Ultorg: > Ultorg creates general-purpose software that helps organizations manage their data. Based on a new method for interactive data visualization, our product combines ease-of-use with expressive power to allow end-users to query, display, and edit relational data, without resorting to custom programming. This fills a long-standing gap between spreadsheets and tailor-made database…
Agree.
Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#25Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#26The organiser of the conference had an interesting (and likeiwse pleasantly succinct!) post-mortem write up of the event, if anyone is interested
https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/writing/hytradboi-2022-po...
Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#27Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#28Here’s some more information on Ultorg: > Ultorg creates general-purpose software that helps organizations manage their data. Based on a new method for interactive data visualization, our product combines ease-of-use with expressive power to allow end-users to query, display, and edit relational data, without resorting to custom programming. This fills a long-standing gap between spreadsheets and tailor-made database…
How does it handle if the table I join pulls in a thousand matching rows for each key?
Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#29I’m honestly really blown away by this. Are there other such tools out there that do a similar thing?
If I don't understand the data model well enough to know how to write joins to get what I need, I have never found that a GUI helps me very much.
Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
#30Here’s some more information on Ultorg: > Ultorg creates general-purpose software that helps organizations manage their data. Based on a new method for interactive data visualization, our product combines ease-of-use with expressive power to allow end-users to query, display, and edit relational data, without resorting to custom programming. This fills a long-standing gap between spreadsheets and tailor-made database…
I wonder how much the data in the demo helps sell the readability and space-efficiency. Like anything looks tidy if there's 3-4 rows of data being joined. But that sort of well behaved small-scale hello world database isn't difficult to work with in any tool. How does it handle if the table I join pulls in a thousand matching rows for each key?
This is a very good question.. In the section of the video on automatic form layout it is strongly implied that the auto-layout is driven by semantic inference of the column names. I see this easily breaking -- anyone who's ever inherited a production database knows that column names are often cryptic or context specific.
Also makes me wonder how well that system handles databases with non-English identifiers?