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Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by outcoldman »

idoh wrote: post #4
galogon wrote: post #2

The Watch, Mac and iPhone are doing great but the iPad lacks ambition and doesn't seem to have a direction. Who is in charge of the iPad division at Apple?

It has the ambition, agree that they haven't figured it out yet. I think that it just might be a hard problem to figure out. I have an iPhone, an iPad, and a MacBook. I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I have made attempts at doing all my work stuff on it, but failed every time. Simple things like taking a screenshot over here and pasting it o…

I believe it is time for Apple to rethink iPad and MacBook. They both have the same chip now.

iPad should be a Macbook Air.

Apple already allows to run iPad applications on macOS. They should completely destroy iPadOS, and let macOS run on iPad. I would prefer to have powerful OS (macOS) with some glitches on iPad, than to have an iPad with limited OS (and still have glitches to be honest). I even ok to use similar to Windows 8 idea, you aren't plugged in to keyboard - it is going to look like an iPadOS (with different app launcher), and when you connect keyboard you can use macOS.

The only reason I am still own iPad (to be honest two of them), is because I cannot disconnect screen from my laptop, even that is not the biggest issue, but because there is no Netflix app, and I cannot download movies to watch in the plane.

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Post by ghaff »

sq_ wrote: post #14
idoh wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has the ambition, agree that they haven't figured it out yet. I think that it just might be a hard problem to figure out. I have an iPhone, an iPad, and a MacBook. I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I have made attempts at doing all my work stuff on it, but failed every time. Simple things like taking a screenshot over here and pasting it o…

> I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I'd never seen it put that way before, but I think it hits the nail right on the head for me. I do like my 2020 iPad Air when I use it, and the pencil is great; however, I basically end up using it as easy scratch paper or when copy-pastable handwriting is useful. Plus when I need an extra screen to go with…

Way back when the iPad first came out, I didn't get it. But I read a lot, got one, and rather liked it. My conclusion was it (especially pre-pencil) was a somewhat luxury and rather optional device that did some things quite well. But was rather unnecessary compared to a MacBook or iPhone (or substitute some generic equivalent). And even non-Max smartphones are much bigger than they used to be.

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Post by dontlaugh »

lvl102 wrote: post #20
zitterbewegung wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are worth it. Nearly every complaint was addressed in the new MacBooks Pros and I feel like its a return to form for the company. The only downsides I can really see is that Wifi on the laptop should have been 6E and the SD Card should have been SD Express but it seems like it was that way due to the length it took being engineered (which isn't an excuse).

My only gripe is the lack of USB-A to make it truly dongle free.

Exactly. USB A would be far more useful than the SD card slot for almost everyone.

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Post by vuln »

usaphp wrote: post #15

I've ordered a new macbook 14" in early March, my delivery date slipped twice already, now it says it's going to be delivered in July. I wonder how much more money would they make if not for supply issues.

Well it’s stopped me from upgrading my maxed out 2015 mbp. I’m very impatient and the 2015 is still going strong so part of me doesn’t even want to spend the money on a new device and then wait months for it to arrive.

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Post by sillysaurusx »

usaphp wrote: post #15

I've ordered a new macbook 14" in early March, my delivery date slipped twice already, now it says it's going to be delivered in July. I wonder how much more money would they make if not for supply issues.

Ditto. At this point it’s easier just to drive to Chicago and pick one up.

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Post by threeseed »

lvl102 wrote: post #20
zitterbewegung wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are worth it. Nearly every complaint was addressed in the new MacBooks Pros and I feel like its a return to form for the company. The only downsides I can really see is that Wifi on the laptop should have been 6E and the SD Card should have been SD Express but it seems like it was that way due to the length it took being engineered (which isn't an excuse).

My only gripe is the lack of USB-A to make it truly dongle free.

Just buy a USB-C to USB-A adapter and leave it permanently attached.

USB-A is a legacy connector and needs to just die already.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by escapedmoose »

oumua_don17 wrote: post #7
idoh wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has the ambition, agree that they haven't figured it out yet. I think that it just might be a hard problem to figure out. I have an iPhone, an iPad, and a MacBook. I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I have made attempts at doing all my work stuff on it, but failed every time. Simple things like taking a screenshot over here and pasting it o…

When combined with Apple Pencil it’s the best digital note taking device. I hardly need to use pen and paper any more. Note taking, reading books and watching videos, playing board games makes it’s a fun and work device. YMMV.

Same. I have both an iPhone and a MacBook as well, but with the Pencil, I just want to do everything on the iPad. It’s become my single notebook and sketchbook—-this is saying a lot coming from someone who has gone through countless fancy notebooks and fountain pens. I still use traditional media for anything I want to last, but for ideation and sketching practice, it’s all iPad all the time for me now.

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Post by chillacy »

galogon wrote: post #2

The Watch, Mac and iPhone are doing great but the iPad lacks ambition and doesn't seem to have a direction. Who is in charge of the iPad division at Apple?

> Who is in charge of the iPad division at Apple

Apple isn't organized by product like other large tech companies, instead it's organized by function. E.g. no divisions like iPad, Mac, iPhone. It's divisions like hardware, software, RF, etc. Each division works on all products.

Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by rootusrootus »

sq_ wrote: post #14
idoh wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has the ambition, agree that they haven't figured it out yet. I think that it just might be a hard problem to figure out. I have an iPhone, an iPad, and a MacBook. I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I have made attempts at doing all my work stuff on it, but failed every time. Simple things like taking a screenshot over here and pasting it o…

> I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I'd never seen it put that way before, but I think it hits the nail right on the head for me. I do like my 2020 iPad Air when I use it, and the pencil is great; however, I basically end up using it as easy scratch paper or when copy-pastable handwriting is useful. Plus when I need an extra screen to go with…

The most compelling use case I've seen yet for the iPad is for regular people who don't want a desktop or laptop computer, but don't want to do everything on their phone. The iPad is just a really big smartphone that with a folio keyboard can become an impromptu laptop if needed. In my extended family I have a few people who are using it for this exact use case and love it. Only one of them even has the keyboard, and all of them do everything on their iPad they'd otherwise use a 'real' computer for.
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