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I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is not my field, but you couldn't just have it orient to point of brightest intensity?

Yeah but that requires knowing control theory rather than “learning” it. Control theory is better if you know what you’re doing. ML is technical debt for sure.

I'm more and more convinced of this. Control theory appears to be like lightsabers, "a refined weapon for a more civilized age". It's really unfortunately that the controls literature is so opaque.

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So large solar farms are usually single-axis tracking, which provides a huge energy production benefit over static panels. Consider this panel's application more for a standalone installment, where it could make sense to use a dual-axis tracking panel over a single-axis or static panel. Re: solar farms and cost, I actually learned that around ~70% of the cost of solar installation is soft costs, not the actual panels…

> around ~70% of the cost of solar installation is soft costs This is incorrect, especially for solar farms Panels are indeed only about 1/3 of the cost. Additional components, labour, inverter, mounting - another 1/3. The last third is indeed soft(ish) cost, but this includes profit (duh..), certification, survey, tax, fees, etc. This can be reduced, but it is not going to magically disappear ... Another fun fact :…

If it’s not hardware (panels, inverters, brackets, etc) it is considered a soft cost.

NREL’s model puts soft costs at 44% for a 100MW fixed-tilt utility-scale plant in 2021:

https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy22osti/80694.pdf

The percentage goes up as the installation size goes down, but it is not 70%

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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Given any GPS coordinates, couldn't one simply calculate the location of the sun in the sky to point directly toward it?

Yes, here is one example of such a site https://gml.noaa.gov/grad/solcalc/

Here is how they do it. https://gml.noaa.gov/grad/solcalc/calcdetails.html

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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Sorry for the off-topic. I think if just 10% of the efforts were put on improving mini/micro/pico hydro electric generator rather than on solar systems, most of the rural areas will probably better off now with reliable power supply than relying solely on the intermittent solar power[1], [2]. [1]Micro hydro: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_hydro [2]Micro hydro power with turgo generator: https://youtu.be/njNYuE…

In the developed world we're moving away from small hydro (bigger than this though) because of the effects it has on the environment. But in the developing world it would be good to see some advances!

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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Sorry for the off-topic. I think if just 10% of the efforts were put on improving mini/micro/pico hydro electric generator rather than on solar systems, most of the rural areas will probably better off now with reliable power supply than relying solely on the intermittent solar power[1], [2]. [1]Micro hydro: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_hydro [2]Micro hydro power with turgo generator: https://youtu.be/njNYuE…

Solar isn't being developed for rural communities though, so this is a bit of a non sequitur.

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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post #25

Sorry for the off-topic. I think if just 10% of the efforts were put on improving mini/micro/pico hydro electric generator rather than on solar systems, most of the rural areas will probably better off now with reliable power supply than relying solely on the intermittent solar power[1], [2]. [1]Micro hydro: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_hydro [2]Micro hydro power with turgo generator: https://youtu.be/njNYuE…

Solar isn't being developed for rural communities though, so this is a bit of a non sequitur.

Rural installations are most common, by far. Maybe you mean they are being paid for by urban users?

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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post #19

Given any GPS coordinates, couldn't one simply calculate the location of the sun in the sky to point directly toward it?

My general approach is if we're not doing X and it sure seems like we could simply do X, we probably cannot simply do X.

Everybody else assumes that too, so nobody tries X.

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So large solar farms are usually single-axis tracking, which provides a huge energy production benefit over static panels. Consider this panel's application more for a standalone installment, where it could make sense to use a dual-axis tracking panel over a single-axis or static panel. Re: solar farms and cost, I actually learned that around ~70% of the cost of solar installation is soft costs, not the actual panels…

> around ~70% of the cost of solar installation is soft costs This is incorrect, especially for solar farms Panels are indeed only about 1/3 of the cost. Additional components, labour, inverter, mounting - another 1/3. The last third is indeed soft(ish) cost, but this includes profit (duh..), certification, survey, tax, fees, etc. This can be reduced, but it is not going to magically disappear ... Another fun fact :…

Farmers are placing them mounted vertically, like fences, in productive fields, running north/south, far enough apart to run a tractor between. They pick up power in morning and afternoon. The crops benefit from reduced heat stress and water loss, and yield more.

Panels that work with light from either side are preferred for this use.

Re: I built an open-source, AI-powered solar panel that's 95% optimal

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but that requires knowing control theory rather than “learning” it. Control theory is better if you know what you’re doing. ML is technical debt for sure.

I'm more and more convinced of this. Control theory appears to be like lightsabers, "a refined weapon for a more civilized age". It's really unfortunately that the controls literature is so opaque.

>> Control theory is better if you know what you’re doing.

The "if you know what you’re doing" here does not refer to the ability to understand control theory. It means that if you know the underlying dynamics, there is mathematically nothing better than controlling those dynamics. Flying a plane, oscillating a circuit, etc. are all things we can do very well without ML because we have exact models of the physical phenomena. Playing chess has no dynamics, control theory is useless. Anything where the dynamics are not "nice" differential equations, ML is probably easier at learning the dynamics than coming up with an ansatz.

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