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When Americans dreamed of kitchen computers (2021)

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Re: When Americans dreamed of kitchen computers (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if the environment is adapted to prevent show-stopping accidents And what exactly would that environment look like to those outside of a car?

lots of guardrails!

Slower speeds hoepfully. Imagine golf carts tottering around the city. That's the automated driving of the future. Not the current mad max roads, but with robots. Instead, some florida retiree town, but with robots.

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I think this is a general pattern: since the beginning of the industrial revolution people have been dreaming about robots doing things for us, replacing entire tasks. The reality is that putting computers into existing devices makes a lot more sense as mechanical household devices are already highly optimized. Sewing machines, kitchen appliances, cars, power tools are the result of decades of engineering so we repla…

> activity that could perhaps be done better by machines, if the environment is adapted to prevent show-stopping accidents.

Like Roombas. No pets, children, floorstanding houseplants, rugs, clothes left on the floor, etc.

For self-driving cars: no non-powered vehicles or pedestrians, no variant uses of the road, no road surface problems.

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I watched the movie Demon Seed when I was young. Any one who wants a smart home should spend the time, and watch this. I suspect they'd change their mind.

You're afraid your smart home device is going to kidnap and impregnate you?

It can’t even stay connected to my wifi for more than a few days!

Re: When Americans dreamed of kitchen computers (2021)

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The article has a link to a video about Moley Robotic's $338,000 robotic kitchen. It's quite eye-opening, because the robot appears to be a pair of arms/hands which can grab mise-en-place containers of ingredients, dump them into a saucepan, and stir them painfully slowly. I wonder:

- who peels and chops the vegetables etc that go into those containers?

- who cleans up the pots and utensils when the robot is done stirring and heating the food?

Ideally there would be another $300,000 robot for each of those two tasks, but I suspect the answer is that your (human) housekeeper is needed.

The video is worth watching just to laugh at how unbelievably slowly this $338,000 marvel is at stirring the contents of a saucepan.

The elevator pitch for Moley could be "Juicero, but for pasta"

Re: When Americans dreamed of kitchen computers (2021)

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I mean I have a dedicated iPad Mini 2 in my kitchen that I use Paprika [0] on, that feels pretty much in line with what was predicted (I don't do my calendaring or taxes on it but still). I know I'm far from alone in having this setup, multiple friends and family members use the same thing. Even growing up we had an older laptop in the kitchen for looking up recipes and the like (though that was very much so an outli…

Fantastic app suggestion! I've been manually copying and pasting recipes I liked into Notion so they are all largely formatted the same—the download recipe functionality in Paprika is magic.

I'm a huge fan of Paprika, their app is slick, they have apps on iOS/Android/Mac/Windows, and it all syncs. They have a ton of features under the hood that I don't even use (like meal planning, pantry management, etc) but I do love their shopping list feature. Just click the shopping cart icon on a recipe and it will let you add all the ingredients to one of your lists. You can easily uncheck all the things you already have and it respects recipe scaling and it will combine ingredients (so if one recipe has 2 tomatoes and you scale it 2x and then another recipe has 3 tomatoes and you leave it at 1x you will end up with 7 tomatoes on your list). Sometimes you need to clean up a recipe a little bit (brand name in the ingredient list or odd naming) but the nice part is you do that once then reap the benefits for forever.

Also, if you are feeling froggy, their cloud sync API is pretty easy to reverse engineer (it's a super basic REST service) so you can build on top of it or write little utilities if needed.

Having all my recipes in the same format is so nice and I can edit a recipe if I want to tweak it or if I find out that what a recipe called for wasn't quite right. Like the icing I make for my red velvet cupcakes called for an insane amount of powered sugar (aka confectioners sugar) and so I edited the recipe so next time I wouldn't over-buy the sugar. Same with tweaking the flavor profile, cook times, etc. And I can add things I always have to look up like sous vide temp/time, I just have a "Sous Vide Steak" "recipe" that has the times in the body of the instructions.

Re: When Americans dreamed of kitchen computers (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One could imagine something like an industrial robot arm that can swap implements being able to manage a relatively large variety of recipes given some staple ingredients in a limited amount of space, but it would be tremendously complex to build and cost more than an industrial robot arm. Keeping it clean and well maintained would be a nontrivial effort, even if the arm includes programming to clean up after itself.…

Articulated robot arm sounds like the most flexible solution. Trickiest part here would be safety - any robot with the power to chop, grind, cut would also have to have a good safety system or be enclosed. Right now I'm thinking about tasks I don't enjoy: chopping onions, peeling carrots or potatoes, anything where I have to touch meat. All those would require very advanced sensing. Come to think it, that last one br…

Not to mention the risk of fire if something goes wrong in the cooking process. (Or, less directly, the risk of getting sick from improperly-cooked food.)
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