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Vancouver proposes 10k-dollar annual fee for gas stations without EV charging

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Re: Vancouver proposes 10k-dollar annual fee for gas stations without EV charging

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This seems misguided to me. One of the biggest benefits to an EV is not having to go to a gas station. Most people can charge at home for their typical needs. Next, it makes sense to put then at a person's work, then at stores or public parking. And of course there needs to be charging infrastructure on highway gas stations and/or rest stops. Making all gas stations, especially urban ones, pay a fine for not having c…

Most people in Canada don't have a home, they rent - especially in BC.

Re: Vancouver proposes 10k-dollar annual fee for gas stations without EV charging

#22

Would be better to incentivize 24 hour grocery stores to provide low cost leases to fast DC charge networks. 20-30 minutes grocery shopping or dining is the new charge experience, versus five minute fill ups at your traditional petrol dispenser. Those who can will charge at home or work most of the time.

Agreed! As someone who just completed a 2,000 mile electric road trip, it wasn't TOO inconvenient, but we had to choose our dining based on what was near the charger, and we mostly chose our lodging based on who had overnight charging available. Shopping and meals fit really well into the (traveling) charging use case. I think a cafe would work as well, but I haven't visited a successful "charge cafe" yet. Of course,…

Let the market decide. Stores or restaurants can put chargers in if they want the customers

Re: Vancouver proposes 10k-dollar annual fee for gas stations without EV charging

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post #12

This seems misguided to me. One of the biggest benefits to an EV is not having to go to a gas station. Most people can charge at home for their typical needs. Next, it makes sense to put then at a person's work, then at stores or public parking. And of course there needs to be charging infrastructure on highway gas stations and/or rest stops. Making all gas stations, especially urban ones, pay a fine for not having c…

Assuming everyone can afford a home...

Re: Vancouver proposes 10k-dollar annual fee for gas stations without EV charging

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Where are these urban gas stations going to provide EV parking?

As mentioned in the article, the proposal would require only a single fast charging spot to avoid the fee.

Sorry what? A fast charging spot handles maybe one car every 15 minutes. The smallest gas station handles 4 cars every 5 minutes. Using gas station land for fast charging doesn't make sense... far better off requiring grocery stores, parks, shopping centers, etc. to install banks of fast chargers. That way there's at least something more to do while waiting for charge than... "hang out at a gas station for far longer than anyone save perhaps beggars/drug addicts would willingly subject themselves to"

Re: Vancouver proposes 10k-dollar annual fee for gas stations without EV charging

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post #12

This seems misguided to me. One of the biggest benefits to an EV is not having to go to a gas station. Most people can charge at home for their typical needs. Next, it makes sense to put then at a person's work, then at stores or public parking. And of course there needs to be charging infrastructure on highway gas stations and/or rest stops. Making all gas stations, especially urban ones, pay a fine for not having c…

> Most people can charge at home for their typical needs

A lot of people in Vancouver can't!

For example they may live in an apartment building whose strata council refuses to install chargers in the garage, or they may live in somebody's basement suite and not have access to a garage at all.

(I'd rather charge my car at a cafe, though.)

Re: Vancouver proposes 10k-dollar annual fee for gas stations without EV charging

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Having sat around in EVs charging with nothing to do, it would be better for Vancouver to incentivize charging stations at places where people might spend that time doing something, like stores, restaurants, etc. It would also be nice for chargers to be installed for street parking in popular areas.

Sitting at a gas station for a half hour to an hour sounds more like punishment for having an EV.

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