I've also seen covers of songs with obscure names (e.g. Bullet with Butterfly Wings) released under more SEO friendly names (The World is a Vampire, I'm Still Just a Rat in a Cage). In fact that specific example showed up in my Discover Weekly rather than the original track. Spotify's webpage isn't loading for me right now, so I can't check play counts.
The fake artists problem on streaming platforms
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Re: The fake artists problem on streaming platforms
#22This is an incredibly clever hack to get people to listen to your music.
I think we should come to the opposite conclusion of the author, there are a large number of talented artists that just lack mainstream exposure. I think it is much more likely that we are bad at filtering than the "best musicians" are the most popular in any respective genre.
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#23It’s shameful to read all the folks claiming that actually known famous historical jazz greats are somehow being legitimately usurped by generic nothing music even in the context of background music.
What the article discusses is clearly dishonest, whatever your take on the word “fake”
Grammy awards are indicative of some popularity and reknown, so not seeing Grammy winners on Spotify genre pages is suspect. There are actual sales awards like platinum and gold and such, and if Spotify genre pages don’t reflect these but push generic in-house brands as top tier products on the world stage it’s fundamentally dishonest as it purports to reflect the state of the charts and state of the industry but actually puts out their own preferences purportedly as the former. If it’s honest it can say : “we would like you try things we recommend” at best…
But then Spotify is a virtual monopoly in music streaming services and is not helping either quality musicians or quality listeners.
Sure, try to justify it by saying they are a private company and can do what they want, but their dishonesty should be noted and the general bad influence they have on the music industry should be noted, and we who care already don’t use or support Spotify.
I recommend bandcamp, among other artist-respecting and fan-respecting services.
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#24I'm not sure I understand the author's point here. Spotify is recommending artists outside of the top 40 charts who they haven't heard of before, therefore they are fake?
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#25If generic jazz can easily substitute "important" jazz it just means your important jazz doesn't have the value you ascribe to it, especially not in the context of "things for background music." I don't think this is saying anything about more active music consumption where people are actually listening to it. I personally get annoyed if more than 20% of a mix is songs I haven't already upvoted so there isn't a lot o…
" it just means your important jazz doesn't have the value you ascribe to it" that's one hell of a stretch. Failure by a broader audience to understand a genre (or only want to casually consume one part of it passively) doesn't invalidate it's canon. By that measure Kenny G should have usurped John Coltrane as the saxophonist of note, and by any standard except coffee shop and elevator back ground noise he's done no…
John Coltrane is only good on paper and there’s a cult of personality which exists around his work. I can’t really say that I think much of his improvisations and in general, what people believe is “incredible” could be cranked out by an algorithm.
Miles Davis is the real deal of jazz for me. Never cared about notes, fame, or much other than being free. That’s jazz.
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#26I skipped spotify alltogether, my digial collection is vast enough to last me for months, including December.
Regarding streaming, I did love last.fm's radio, it helped me to discover a LOT of music, artists and styles. The 3 Euro (Pound?) fee was well-spent. Or was it 5? When that went down the drain I did some footwork myself by scrolling through bandcamp and these day I just turn on BBC 6 music. Sure, every DJ might have some agenda behind their playlist, one of them (Tom Ravenscroft) is often just going through his dad's record collection, but that's fine: because when they pick tracks the audience will give them feedback and the whole experience becomes an interaction between DJs and their listeners. No AI can give you that.
Does anyone else know good radio stations with a wide range of music that I should listen to?
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#27what's an artist anyways? ...I don't even know anymore. (this will only get worse now that we're on the verge of some neural net 'rendering' as much music as you can listen to in anybody's style; I mean, it's been done in a lab already)
also, this seems to be all about the rights to royalties (collecting rent) for the playback of music. what's that got to do with artistry?
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#28I skipped spotify alltogether, my digial collection is vast enough to last me for months, including December. Regarding streaming, I did love last.fm's radio, it helped me to discover a LOT of music, artists and styles. The 3 Euro (Pound?) fee was well-spent. Or was it 5? When that went down the drain I did some footwork myself by scrolling through bandcamp and these day I just turn on BBC 6 music. Sure, every DJ mig…
> because when they pick tracks the audience will give them feedback and the whole experience becomes an interaction between DJs and their listeners. No AI can give you that.
This is exactly what Spotify gives you, no?
Re: The fake artists problem on streaming platforms
#29This is an incredibly clever hack to get people to listen to your music. I think we should come to the opposite conclusion of the author, there are a large number of talented artists that just lack mainstream exposure. I think it is much more likely that we are bad at filtering than the "best musicians" are the most popular in any respective genre.
There are, but they are likely not on Spotify.
The artists listed here in the article are not very talented or interesting or even acceptable as background jazz, in my opinion.
Your statement about undisclosed talent is absolutely true, go to bandcamp for example , and find new music.
The artists and publishers discussed in the article are scattershot attempts at money making likely not even by the artists or performers in question.
There are corporations that cheaply scoop up the rights to tons of old music or by commissioning session musicians to bang out generic copies of standards etc.
I’m not joking, follow up and see that I speak truth. Check out many electronic chill genres. I and other artists have been exploited by such content consolidators
Re: The fake artists problem on streaming platforms
#30If generic jazz can easily substitute "important" jazz it just means your important jazz doesn't have the value you ascribe to it, especially not in the context of "things for background music." I don't think this is saying anything about more active music consumption where people are actually listening to it. I personally get annoyed if more than 20% of a mix is songs I haven't already upvoted so there isn't a lot o…
Music historians note that the creation of the "cannon" of classical music occurred when public orchestral concerts arose around the early 19th century (and often paired with the rise of the middle class). Prior, you'd need an invitation to a private concert put on by a noble. Mostly "old" music was played at these concerts. A public concert had to at least cover its cost from ticket sales, so eliminating commissions…
Shostakovich is not considered "standard orchestral repertoire"?