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Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by TooKool4This »

xkbarkar wrote: post #6
mountainriver wrote: post #3

I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

Anecdotally yeah. Agree. To me cnn is the exact same garbage as fox. Just leftist instead of rightist. I never click on any links to either media. Actually I used to line the guardian but in the past two years the quality of their reporting also just went alarmist and hyperbolic. In some cases blatantly inaccurate. Looking for a good news source currenty that arent afraid of critizicing any political party and their…

An hour of PBS Newshour a day. Very much fact based reporting with maybe a slight left leaning bias. Digest it and move on and live your life.

Besides that, I just turn off the news spigot. I'm slowly coming to the realization that watching news was kind of becoming my version of watching reality TV shows. There is of course value in being informed but outside of that, a single person can't meaningfully take action on all the things being reported on. So I see less and less reason to keep up with the news besides just being generally informed.

I think a better way to consume news might be to get a few "general" news tidbits through your regular news outlets. And then get more focused news on topics you personally care about and are willing to take action on through non-traditional news outlets.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by godelski »

I don't get it, CNN+ looks exactly the opposite of what we need as a country. I looked at their show offerings[0] and 75% of them looked like true crime dramas. If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Maybe it's just me, but this is the exact opposite direction CNN or any news should go. News isn't for entertainment and it shouldn't ever be. And I'm pretty sure a lot of us have been fed up with the attempts to make it so.

[0] https://plus.cnn.com/

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by ilamont »

Paywalled news apps and websites have a real problem attracting and retaining subscribers. My local news website forces you to talk to a human to cancel, and they will cut rates to the bone to keep customers. NYT does this as well, although it's an easier sell because the articles and special features are such high quality and they have really figured out the hooks and cross-sells (Cooking, Wirecutter, games, etc.)

In terms of video, many well financed companies have tried to make it work and struggled, whether it's niche audiences, drama, talk, news, or whatever. From what I understand, Bloomberg TV survives only because of revenue from their terminal business. As someone else pointed out, with so many free alternatives for international news and political talk, what's the attraction of CNN+ to potential subs?

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by lampshades »

godelski wrote: post #22

I don't get it, CNN+ looks exactly the opposite of what we need as a country. I looked at their show offerings[0] and 75% of them looked like true crime dramas. If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Maybe it's just me, b…

Mainstream news is basically dead. It's all for entertainment and ad revenue. There are very few journalist of any sort of integrity that exist on any of these networks.

They'll be eaten by the younger upstarts that actually care to report on news and write real journalism. And then the cycle begins again (look at Vice).

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by gnicholas »

xkbarkar wrote: post #6
mountainriver wrote: post #3

I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

Anecdotally yeah. Agree. To me cnn is the exact same garbage as fox. Just leftist instead of rightist. I never click on any links to either media. Actually I used to line the guardian but in the past two years the quality of their reporting also just went alarmist and hyperbolic. In some cases blatantly inaccurate. Looking for a good news source currenty that arent afraid of critizicing any political party and their…

Reason.com is a libertarian source whose coverage and perspective does not align with the Dem or Repub parties.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by lampshades »

TooKool4This wrote: post #21
xkbarkar wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally yeah. Agree. To me cnn is the exact same garbage as fox. Just leftist instead of rightist. I never click on any links to either media. Actually I used to line the guardian but in the past two years the quality of their reporting also just went alarmist and hyperbolic. In some cases blatantly inaccurate. Looking for a good news source currenty that arent afraid of critizicing any political party and their…

An hour of PBS Newshour a day. Very much fact based reporting with maybe a slight left leaning bias. Digest it and move on and live your life. Besides that, I just turn off the news spigot. I'm slowly coming to the realization that watching news was kind of becoming my version of watching reality TV shows. There is of course value in being informed but outside of that, a single person can't meaningfully take action o…

> with maybe a slight left leaning bias

As someone with a conservative leaning bias, I would consider PBS to have a very strong left (whatever that means) leaning bias. I guess it depends on your start point.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by [deleted] »

godelski wrote: post #22

I don't get it, CNN+ looks exactly the opposite of what we need as a country. I looked at their show offerings[0] and 75% of them looked like true crime dramas. If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Maybe it's just me, b…

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Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by oldmanhorton »

xkbarkar wrote: post #6
mountainriver wrote: post #3

I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

Anecdotally yeah. Agree. To me cnn is the exact same garbage as fox. Just leftist instead of rightist. I never click on any links to either media. Actually I used to line the guardian but in the past two years the quality of their reporting also just went alarmist and hyperbolic. In some cases blatantly inaccurate. Looking for a good news source currenty that arent afraid of critizicing any political party and their…

I think Shepherd Smith on CNBC is generally pretty good. He definitely does some entertainment and "feel good" stories but for the most part there's less commentary and opinion than most other cable news.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by tootie »

g42gregory wrote: post #12
xkbarkar wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally yeah. Agree. To me cnn is the exact same garbage as fox. Just leftist instead of rightist. I never click on any links to either media. Actually I used to line the guardian but in the past two years the quality of their reporting also just went alarmist and hyperbolic. In some cases blatantly inaccurate. Looking for a good news source currenty that arent afraid of critizicing any political party and their…

Jonathan Turley, Glenn Greenwald.

Greenwald is absolutely off the deep end. Being brave enough to criticize orthodoxy is only laudable if the orthodoxy is actually wrong. Greenwald hasn't backed down from any of his nonsense takes on the Ukraine war no matter how wrong he is.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Post by uoaei »

mountainriver wrote: post #3

I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

The last time I watched CNN it seemed like their writing staff was replaced with unscrupulous psychologists intent on plucking every heart-string they can reach.
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