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Ask HN: Any Parents to “Average” Children?

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Re: Ask HN: Any Parents to “Average” Children?

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OP, I'd really, really recommend that you are able to answer these questions before you start projecting assumptions, wishes, or expected failure onto a pre-schooler:

- are you happy, right now?

- are you living a life that you chose?

- what makes you happy

- what makes a live "well-lived"?

I have this growing pit in my stomach right now that I just can't shake. Your IQ is high and you make a ton of money... and I doubt I'd trade places with you for any material possession on this Earth. You have a daughter to help guide through the world and you're on HN having an unspecified anxiety about a capricious measurement, of a 4 year old, that is widely accepted by thoughtful folks to be a largely unuseful metric.

I suspect that maybe you're wondering about the legitimacy of those tests, questioning your own results, wondering what this means for her... and I really hope you can see that how you process this is going to affect how you treat her. That is going to affect her so much more than an IQ test done at 4, it's really worrisome to me that you can't see the forest for the trees.

I always feel most loved by my parent, and most at peace with my path to find happiness in life, when they tell me "Whatever, we just want you to be happy.". It's what they said when I came out. It's what they said when I stepped back from a promising career because despite... the exceptional status and money I had... I was being under-valued, disrespected and made to do thoughtless techno-capital work. The self-doubt I already had from societal expectations would've crushed me if they had leaned into it and admonished me.

I hope in your heart you realize that helping your daughter navigate life and find happiness is far more important than projecting your unexamined internalized expectations onto her.

Re: Ask HN: Any Parents to “Average” Children?

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> but due to some difficulties in preschool, underwent some tests and has an IQ of 102.

That's an average-ish result, so it probably isn't the source of the problems in preschool. OTOH whatever the unidentified source of those problems is may be depressing the results of the IQ assessment. (While IQ tests generally have decent test-retest consistency, there are definitely factors other than what they are intended to test that can impact them, and the kinds of other things that would lead to problems for which an IQ test would be part of the diagnostic response definitely include them.)

In this scenario, were it me, “my child has a test showing average intelligence” would not be a major concern.

Re: Ask HN: Any Parents to “Average” Children?

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OP, I'd really, really recommend that you are able to answer these questions before you start projecting assumptions, wishes, or expected failure onto a pre-schooler: - are you happy, right now? - are you living a life that you chose? - what makes you happy - what makes a live "well-lived"? I have this growing pit in my stomach right now that I just can't shake. Your IQ is high and you make a ton of money... and I do…

> realize that helping your daughter navigate life and find happiness

That's precisely what I'm working on here. There are countless guides for "average parents with gifted child." There are no guides for "gifted parents with average child".

Re: Ask HN: Any Parents to “Average” Children?

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Pre-school? Seems a bit early to be worried about their standardized test performance. It's a lot of theater to justify your tuition fee.

But even if they have a lower test score (than you wanted)when they are 3/4/5 years old, so what? Don't be fatalistic, they have a lot of growing to do & need your support.

Re: Ask HN: Any Parents to “Average” Children?

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, my morose nature is to be distressed by most situations :-) But, I feel like it's typical for "average" parents to seek help for dealing with their gifted children. I've read a bit about that online. Haven't seen much about the opposite. Imagine a parent who is proud of their child's precocity. What's the opposite of pride? Shame? Do I feel some shame? Maybe a smidge. Love is definitely the predominant feeling.…

You are ashamed your child is pretty much like every other child? Am I reading that right? That seems really strange. My tip would be to just let the child be average. Do you think your higher IQ has made you happier throughout your life? Nothing bad about being average.

OP's original post referenced this article [0] as a concern.

[0] https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Why-are-Palo-Alto-s-k...

Are they concerned about depression because he's afraid his daughter won't be smart enough? Do they think 68% of the population within 1 SD of the mean IQ are suicidal, or should be?

Re: Ask HN: Any Parents to “Average” Children?

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OP, I'd really, really recommend that you are able to answer these questions before you start projecting assumptions, wishes, or expected failure onto a pre-schooler: - are you happy, right now? - are you living a life that you chose? - what makes you happy - what makes a live "well-lived"? I have this growing pit in my stomach right now that I just can't shake. Your IQ is high and you make a ton of money... and I do…

> realize that helping your daughter navigate life and find happiness That's precisely what I'm working on here. There are countless guides for "average parents with gifted child." There are no guides for "gifted parents with average child".

You raise them like any other child. I've never seen a question like this.
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