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Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

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Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

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The fact that they can use the delay of the satellite signal to predict rainfall, is pretty impressive. It immediately links this app to more data for weather prediction, which might lead to better weather predictions. I wonder how they would measure that on an android phone. Does android expose such low-level delays to the user? Is this not handled by a GNSS chip in hardware, or the OS driver/kernel?

Here is an example of pretty stunning amount of visual detail provided by one of popular GPS data app on Android: https://play-lh.googleusercontent.com/lT3TpHarUx89Z7HIf043aU... At least I can confirm it works will all navigation constellations on Samsung S10.

This looks a lot like "GPS Status" and it used to be really good. Recent comments on the Play Store do not sound good though.

Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

#24
Only on Google store, and an open source google store client (Aurora) just says "failed to fetch app details"... why is it so hard to just put an apk on your website if you actually want people to use your app?

> As well as helping to create new Earth and space weather forecasting models, participants are also in with the chance to win prizes

They seem to be quite keen on getting users and I'd be interested in the data myself (don't care for prizes), but then they make it a Google ecosystem exclusive?

Edit: sent them an email using the address on the contact page. Let's see.

Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

#25
post #14

The fact that they can use the delay of the satellite signal to predict rainfall, is pretty impressive. It immediately links this app to more data for weather prediction, which might lead to better weather predictions. I wonder how they would measure that on an android phone. Does android expose such low-level delays to the user? Is this not handled by a GNSS chip in hardware, or the OS driver/kernel?

Here is an example of pretty stunning amount of visual detail provided by one of popular GPS data app on Android: https://play-lh.googleusercontent.com/lT3TpHarUx89Z7HIf043aU... At least I can confirm it works will all navigation constellations on Samsung S10.

Link doesn't work for me and the URL is obscured for some reason. Is my guess correct that you're linking the GPSTest app?

Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

#26
post #10

Interesting project, can't wait to help ESA out a bit. Seems like the phone will just track the satellites via GPS, so it's not even that battery intensive. Overnight left charging could provide a lot of data. The fact that there's a leaderboard makes it even more gamified.

Don't phones use a combination of various global positioning systems these days, including glonass and galileo? Actually how much detailed GPS information can phones access? Most 'common' apps will use the wider 'location services', which combine GNSS data with things like known wifi points and 3/4/5g radio towers to provide better accuracy.

If you install this app, you'll see exactly what GPS data your phone is picking up.

https://github.com/barbeau/gpstest

I can see GPS, Galileo, Chinese, Russian, and Japanese ones.

Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

#27

April fools joke?

Do explain how you think this is a joke. Genuinely curious.

There have been tons of fake apps that claim to do everything from microwaving food to measuring blood pressure. Not everyone knows everything about how things work in principle. I could imagine that GP doesn't know whether this is anywhere near realistic and just assumes it's a joke, maybe?

Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

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post #24

Only on Google store, and an open source google store client (Aurora) just says "failed to fetch app details"... why is it so hard to just put an apk on your website if you actually want people to use your app? > As well as helping to create new Earth and space weather forecasting models, participants are also in with the chance to win prizes They seem to be quite keen on getting users and I'd be interested in the da…

why is it so hard to just put an apk on your website

Then you'd have to field all the "How do I use this file?" and "Why doesn't this work on my phone?" questions yourself.

Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

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post #28
post #24

Only on Google store, and an open source google store client (Aurora) just says "failed to fetch app details"... why is it so hard to just put an apk on your website if you actually want people to use your app? > As well as helping to create new Earth and space weather forecasting models, participants are also in with the chance to win prizes They seem to be quite keen on getting users and I'd be interested in the da…

why is it so hard to just put an apk on your website Then you'd have to field all the "How do I use this file?" and "Why doesn't this work on my phone?" questions yourself.

and _how can i update my app?_

Re: Turn your phone into a space monitoring tool

#30

We don't even have apps to turn an Android/iOS device into a proper native webcam using UVC over USB2.0 & all attempts at RTSP/other sttreaming protocols just feel hacky & laggy.

scrcpy + an app like opencamera works great for me

That's great for monitoring & setting up shots but still doesn't show up as a native device. What I usually do is hook a stream upto OBS or join via video on the phone & stay muted+silent on my laptop.
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