Hidden Italy: The Forbidden Cyclopean Ruins (2013) • Hacker News Board

Re: Hidden Italy: The Forbidden Cyclopean Ruins (2013)

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Post by ncmncm » Sun, Apr 03, 2022, 2:03 AM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #8

Big and beautiful rocks but smaller than Giza pyramids which are from 2500 BC. But of course the cover up failed there. Everybody knows that aliens built them /s

All we can really be sure of is that they are at least 2500 years old. But we know at least some of the white facing stonework was done about then, because we have (!) actual documents from a foreman.

There is a very great deal we still don't know about Egyptian stonework, and how it was done, that historians are aggressively not interested in discussing. Anyway what they insist was done is physically impossible. So, there is plenty left for our grandchildren still to puzzle out.

The Egyptians loved cutting tunnels, and new tech will help us locate the miles of still unexplored tunnels crisscrossing the sites.

Re: Hidden Italy: The Forbidden Cyclopean Ruins (2013)

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Post by Ancapistani » Sun, Apr 03, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

orm wrote: post #13

uniqueuid wrote: post #3

One reason for the seeming obscurity is that science now calls this megalithic masonry. But fascinating nonetheless. [1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=mega...

Megalithic seems more fitting than cyclopean to me.

I’ve seen “cyclopean” (lower case) used to mean “huge” in fiction a few times, especially in fiction set in the past.

Interestingly, this dictionary lists three meanings of the word: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/cyclopean

The first is “referring to a Cyclops”. The second is “huge”. The third is in reference to these types of (megalithic) ruins.

I wonder if the first meaning is the original one, and the others evolved from that meaning as our understanding of human history changed.

Re: Hidden Italy: The Forbidden Cyclopean Ruins (2013)

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Post by Ancapistani » Sun, Apr 03, 2022, 4:55 PM UTC

kubb wrote: post #15

conspiracy theorists sometimes seem like reasonable and knowledgeable people, but then they come out with this ridiculous stuff and i never know what to do at that point

It sorta makes me wish there was a term that didn’t have the cultural baggage of “conspiracy theorist”.

There is a wide range of conspiracy theories, from “completely outlandish” to “unlikely” to “plausible.”

Consider these three:

1) The Soviets attempted to put a man into space before Yuri Gagarin. The attempt failed, he died, and the Soviets covered up the attempt to avoid the negative publicity.

2) The US has a second, secret space program managed by the military.

3) The US secret space program is based on recovered alien technology, which was reverse engineered and put into practice without ever being declassified. They have several very large spacecraft (“Solar Warden”) that are manned by people who are taken as young adults, spend twenty years of service in space, and who then have their memories wiped and are transported back in time to a point before they enlisted. This program is called “Twenty and Back.”

… there are people out there who believe all three of these.

I find the first to be completely plausible - even likely - though I’ve not seen enough evidence to be convinced it’s necessarily true. The second is plausible but unlikely to be true on a scale that would be really surprising. The third… c’mon.

As it is, as a culture we seem to lump people who are open to believing things like the first two may be true in with people who believe the the third. That’s probably doing us a disservice.