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I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

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Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

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I find this fairly repugnant. In the same way that dumpster diving also gets you free food - but you are essentially a parasite, living on the waste of others. At least with the dumpster diving, the relationship is clear. He generates literally nothing of value here - everything is stolen from others. I truly hope we end up with the same social aversions to things like this that we do for other taboo social activitie…

I ultimately decided to scrape directly from other Instagram feeds […]

I stopped reading, right there.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

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I respect the time, effort, and engineering the author put in. But this sort of thing largely just makes me feel gross. We’re moving towards an Internet that’s just one never ending loop of regurgitated spam. Call me naive, but I wish people wielding these skills felt more responsibility to be good citizens of the Internet, rather than spamming cyclical stolen content and “growth hacking” their way to followers by ma…

Seems like it helps everyone here. There are always gonna be social media marketers when the audience on the medium grows.

The creator is getting free meals and the restaurants are getting some exposure. Sure.

But what about the average user. They post a picture of their night out at a club in NYC. Some automated bot comes along and follows them because the venue is tagged marking that they live nearby.

They’re sitting at work and get a notification that they’ve been followed. ::dopamine hit:: They pick up their phone, distracting them and check the account. Oh cool! This account has 20k followers and only follows 400 people, I must be special. ::dopamine hit::

This account has co-opted their attention via a push notification.

They follow the account back and get their feed filled with automated posts even though they’re under the impression it’s a curated account. They’re being subtly manipulated into looking at empty content, maybe even going to some of the restaurants, under the guise of genuine recommendations when it’s purely spam and noise.

Is this a travesty? Probably not. Am I being dramatic? Almost certainly. But it kind of sucks and can get out of control quickly. I know people who get thousands of push notifications each day, and who’s feeds are filled with doom scrolling-friendly garbage. It’s not healthy.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

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Person creates website with some content. Person verifiably has 25k people looking at it at least sometimes. Restaurants give him a meal in exchange for ad space(sponsored review). Other than further polluting the new web with fake bullshit content, there doesn't seem to be anything immoral about it. It just "feels" a bit scummy. But hey, a man's gotta eat.

This person steals content from others. They don't add anything. They didn't create a website either - they're just scraping content to steal. And they steal that content for actual financial benefit of free food rather so it isn't innocent.

This is totally scummy.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

#25

Person creates website with some content. Person verifiably has 25k people looking at it at least sometimes. Restaurants give him a meal in exchange for ad space(sponsored review). Other than further polluting the new web with fake bullshit content, there doesn't seem to be anything immoral about it. It just "feels" a bit scummy. But hey, a man's gotta eat.

> But hey, a man's gotta eat.

Yes, ideally by providing value to others in their community.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

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I’m curious why this form of piracy is praised and encouraged by so many people, but when people sell DVDs on the street the police drag them away. At least the guy on the street adds value to the person buying the DVD. This guy is just inserting himself as a valueless middleman between the original poster and the viewer.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

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As far as I can tell, based on him saying he doesn't ever log into the account he's just flat out lying to these restaurants when he says he will exchange a review on his IG for a free entre

I'd have to agree. I was looking for where he talked about reviewing the restaurants and I didn't see it. He even says he gives away some of the free meals to friends and family, so I doubt he forces them to do the review either.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

#28

I find this fairly repugnant. In the same way that dumpster diving also gets you free food - but you are essentially a parasite, living on the waste of others. At least with the dumpster diving, the relationship is clear. He generates literally nothing of value here - everything is stolen from others. I truly hope we end up with the same social aversions to things like this that we do for other taboo social activitie…

Dumpster divers are commensals, not parasites.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

#29

Person creates website with some content. Person verifiably has 25k people looking at it at least sometimes. Restaurants give him a meal in exchange for ad space(sponsored review). Other than further polluting the new web with fake bullshit content, there doesn't seem to be anything immoral about it. It just "feels" a bit scummy. But hey, a man's gotta eat.

This person steals content from others. They don't add anything. They didn't create a website either - they're just scraping content to steal. And they steal that content for actual financial benefit of free food rather so it isn't innocent. This is totally scummy.

We say that but people who follow the account or like his posts must have found some value.

Re: I Eat for Free in NYC Using Python, Automation, AI, and Instagram

#30
This guy lists himself as an entrepreneur, founder of a website that apparently sells influencer marketing. Given he has the skills to do something like this, why not just use those skills to get a job that pays you enough to buy food? If he insists on owning his own business, choose an industry sector where founders don't need to scam local restaurants to stay alive.

The scheme also seems doomed in that I'm hoping the restaurants aren't stupid enough to fall for it twice from the same account. At some point, he's going to run out of places close to him he can still get free food from and be forced to drive into Jersey, costing him more in wasted time, gas, and tolls than he would have spent just buying food.

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