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Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by jstx1 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #6
sendfoods wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which other movie(s) by him can you recommend most?

Bladerunner 2049 is amazing as is Arrival and Sicario.

Bladerunner 2049 is so slow with such a bland uneventful story and I don't think that cinematography or visuals are enough to compensate for a weak story. I just found the whole thing incredibly boring.

To make a parallel between cinematography and special effects - I think at this point people are kind of dismissive of movies that emphasize special effects and there's this old George Lucas quote that "a special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing". But swap "special effect" for "cinematography/visuals" and suddenly movies like Bladerunner 2049 are treated like they are masterpieces even though they hardly have any story to tell.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by not_math »

sendfoods wrote: post #4
bitcharmer wrote: post #3

Like most films directed by Dennis Villeneuve I found Dune to be a work of art and visual masterpiece. His recount of how they prepared the set and the scene for the Gom Jabar ritual just shows how commited he is and how much passion he puts into his work. Absolute delight to watch. https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0

which other movie(s) by him can you recommend most?

Incendies is his first movie that got him a nomination at the Academy Awards. The budget is smaller than Dune and it's in French and Arabic, so the mass appeal isn't there, but it's well worth the watch. To quote Denis Villeneuve: "[it's] a modern story with a sort of Greek tragedy element".

The movie is filmed in Jordan and Montreal, which have a similar feel to Dune, and I would say that he probably took inspiration from his Incendies days to make Dune.

The movie is based on a play by Wajdi Mouawad, who now works at the very prestigious théâtre national de la Colline as the director.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by morganvachon »

Apocalypse_666 wrote: post #9
sendfoods wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which other movie(s) by him can you recommend most?

Arrival

This is one of the few movies of the last two decades that brought me to tears at the reveal towards the end. Once it hits you, you'll look back at the entire movie in a different mindset and it's emotionally jarring. It also helps not having read the source story.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by mhh__ »

saiya-jin wrote: post #17
mhh__ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lynch-dune is mostly good, but Villeneuve's is so much better in a beautifully indescribable way that only cinema can really do. Villeneuve has been dreaming of making his Dune since he was a boy and it shows. ignoring the visuals, the tone is just so much more ominous and alien than Lynch's. One thing that really dates old movies versus their modern counterparts (of sorts) is the sound design. Dune's sounds are abso…

Old Dune is kind of trippy view that happened once and I can't imagine it happening ever again, not with that budget and quality actors. Its still most approachable of all of Lynch's work. I like it a lot for sort of nostalgic feeling for the 80s vision of the future like from some pulp comics. New Dune is completely different beast, can't wait till second part comes. That universe is rich for other stories, tv serie…

I think Villeneuve might go more in the trippy direction with the next one.

If you compare (say) 2049 and dune you can tell that the latter has been made to hold the audiences hand a lot (blade runner didn't make it's money back). Now he's sold the concept I imagine he'll have more confidence/freedom with part 2.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by foo_foo_can_do »

sendfoods wrote: post #4
bitcharmer wrote: post #3

Like most films directed by Dennis Villeneuve I found Dune to be a work of art and visual masterpiece. His recount of how they prepared the set and the scene for the Gom Jabar ritual just shows how commited he is and how much passion he puts into his work. Absolute delight to watch. https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0

which other movie(s) by him can you recommend most?

prisoners, incendies

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by Fricken »

mhh__ wrote: post #10
hef19898 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

David Lynchs version of it is vastly underrated, Villeneuve's Dune is so much better so! Really looking forward to part two!

Lynch-dune is mostly good, but Villeneuve's is so much better in a beautifully indescribable way that only cinema can really do. Villeneuve has been dreaming of making his Dune since he was a boy and it shows. ignoring the visuals, the tone is just so much more ominous and alien than Lynch's. One thing that really dates old movies versus their modern counterparts (of sorts) is the sound design. Dune's sounds are abso…

Dennis Villeneuve has been watching David Lynch's Dune since he was a boy, and it shows. Villeneuve lifted dozens of shots directly from Lynch's version, and relied on the same key scenes as the 1984 Dune. I started out impressed by all the homages to Lynch's Dune, but beyond a certain threshold "homage" becomes "ripoff".

In Lynch's the Harkonen's were brutal. In Villeneuve's Dune Gurney had to explain to us that they were brutal, because no actual brutality made it to screen. Baron Harkonen was lower energy than Jeb Bush.

Villeneuve basically just took Lynch's Dune and drained the colour out of both the imagery and the performances.

The biggest criticism of Lynch's Dune us that it doesn't make any sense, and I still totally lost the plot 2/3 of the way through the new Dune as well.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by toyg »

jstx1 wrote: post #21
andy_ppp wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bladerunner 2049 is amazing as is Arrival and Sicario.

Bladerunner 2049 is so slow with such a bland uneventful story and I don't think that cinematography or visuals are enough to compensate for a weak story. I just found the whole thing incredibly boring. To make a parallel between cinematography and special effects - I think at this point people are kind of dismissive of movies that emphasize special effects and there's this old George Lucas quote that "a special effe…

> Bladerunner 2049 is so slow with such a bland uneventful story

Well, it follows a similarly slow and relatively uneventful story in the original, so that's not really a critique. That's not really the point of BladeRunner, anyway - the point is the ambience, the worldbuilding, and the philosophical questions it raises, which 2049 provides in good amount. It will never have the same cultural impact that the original had, but it is an extremely respectful sequel with incredibly beautiful cinematography.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by MikusR »

jstx1 wrote: post #21
andy_ppp wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bladerunner 2049 is amazing as is Arrival and Sicario.

Bladerunner 2049 is so slow with such a bland uneventful story and I don't think that cinematography or visuals are enough to compensate for a weak story. I just found the whole thing incredibly boring. To make a parallel between cinematography and special effects - I think at this point people are kind of dismissive of movies that emphasize special effects and there's this old George Lucas quote that "a special effe…

By visuals you mean when it's teal or when it's orange?
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