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Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by stephth » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:22 AM UTC

scorpion032 wrote: post #15

stephth wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So ... why exactly were the HN stories buried?

Although, I didn't do it, I can reason why. If Mark pulled all his content (and even nominated his own Wikipedia article for deletion citing he is not notable) because he wanted some privacy, letting all those articles on the HN frontpage would do the exact opposite to provide him more attention that he is avoiding.

letting all those articles on the HN frontpage would do the exact opposite to provide him more attention that he is avoiding.

So you're saying those stories were removed because Mark Pilgrim wished they were? Is that how things actually work in HN?

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by kenneth_reitz » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:27 AM UTC

His GitHub projects have been mirrored: https://github.com/diveintomark/

Dive Into Python 3: http://diveintopython3.ep.io/ GitHub: https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintopython3

Dive Into HTML5: http://diveintohtml5.ep.io/ GitHub: https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintohtml5

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by munim » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:27 AM UTC

I am sorry, but I was out of the loop. What exactly happened to the original site?

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by masklinn » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:42 AM UTC

munim wrote: post #23

I am sorry, but I was out of the loop. What exactly happened to the original site?

The author did a variant of the _Why: took down his online presence, deleted the online accounts he could and changed the configuration of his sites to return "410 Gone" on requests.

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by scorpion032 » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:43 AM UTC

stephth wrote: post #21

scorpion032 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although, I didn't do it, I can reason why. If Mark pulled all his content (and even nominated his own Wikipedia article for deletion citing he is not notable) because he wanted some privacy, letting all those articles on the HN frontpage would do the exact opposite to provide him more attention that he is avoiding.

letting all those articles on the HN frontpage would do the exact opposite to provide him more attention that he is avoiding. So you're saying those stories were removed because Mark Pilgrim wished they were? Is that how things actually work in HN?

benevolent censorship?

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by jrockway » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:43 AM UTC

j_col wrote: post #14

skrebbel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like someone at HN stopped an attention whore from attention whoring too much. Censorship, yes, but nice censorship.

I'm sorry, but no censorship is nice in a site that is supposed to be about content getting up-voted/down-voted by a community.

There's no downvoting, though. Hence, moderators sometimes remove articles that are popular but don't belong here. Just because something is popular among HN readers doesn't mean it needs to be on HN, and the mods balance out the natural Way Of The Universe in that case.

I'm not sure I necessarily agree with this, but am just stating how things work here. There is no reason to expect that you aren't being censored; ultimately this site is for advertising YC, not for being an impartial news filter.

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by jrockway » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:46 AM UTC

So Mark deletes this from the Internet, and a bunch of other people put it back up? For people that were concerned enough about him to send the police to his house a few hours ago, it seems weird that they are now saying "fuck the author's wishes" and putting it back online.

I guess if there isn't enough Internet Drama, we have to make our own? Can we go back to whining about node.js? At least I found that mildly funny...

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by FlowerPower » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:48 AM UTC

masklinn wrote: post #24

munim wrote: post #23

I am sorry, but I was out of the loop. What exactly happened to the original site?

The author did a variant of the _Why: took down his online presence, deleted the online accounts he could and changed the configuration of his sites to return "410 Gone" on requests.

Why ?

Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:49 AM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #27

So Mark deletes this from the Internet, and a bunch of other people put it back up? For people that were concerned enough about him to send the police to his house a few hours ago, it seems weird that they are now saying "fuck the author's wishes" and putting it back online. I guess if there isn't enough Internet Drama, we have to make our own? Can we go back to whining about node.js? At least I found that mildly fun…

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Re: Diveintohtml5 lives

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Post by Scorpil » Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 8:50 AM UTC

I'm not very educated in all this legal stuff, so i have few questions regarded license of this book. First: does license CC-BY-3.0 allow me to download this book for free, make any changes to format or content of the book, including downloading to my Kindle? Amazon sells O'reilly version for kindle for 15.49$, and i can't find 'mobi' version at any legal sources, so is it ok if i make one myself? And if i will, is it ok to share it with everyone?

Secondly, as i understand, there is no problems with translating the book to any language and then sharing it for free with everyone?