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A DARPA Perspective on Artificial Intelligence [pdf]

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Re: A DARPA Perspective on Artificial Intelligence [pdf]

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Post by digitcatphd »

Animats wrote: post #5

"Contextual adaptation" is what they want, but that doesn't mean it's coming in the near future. However, this does mean that funding for research on it will be available. As I've said for years, the big lack in AI is in the "common sense" and unstructured manipulation area. Nobody can build something with squirrel levels of manipulation and agility, even in simulation. Robot manipulation in unstructured situations i…

Well said

Re: A DARPA Perspective on Artificial Intelligence [pdf]

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Post by gibsonf1 »

hiddencost wrote: post #14

I wonder who is trying to get what funded? "Second wave" is going gangbusters, despite Gary Marcus' every-six-months rant; the review of statistical learning is reasonable given a barely technical audience, but the summary of "third wave" seems designed to extract large amounts of funding from people who aren't up to date on the state of the field.

Theranos got a great deal of funding too, and the truth about how none of the "Second Wave" ML self driving car technology comes even remotely close to safe self driving will be coming out probably later this year. The issue is that ML has no conceptual and causal understanding of anything. For confirmation, I've been carefully watching the countless "self driving" startups in San Francisco driving around, and I have almost never seen a driver in those cars not actively steering it.

Re: A DARPA Perspective on Artificial Intelligence [pdf]

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Post by gone35 »

(2016?)

Also:

> First wave: Handcrafted knowledge

> Second wave: Statistical learning

> Third wave: Contextual adaptation

I understood clearly enough the first two, but the slides become increasingly ambiguous and fuzzy towards the end; and it seems to me they are mixing up a bunch of not self-evidently related desiderata.

It is not immediate, for instance, that small "generative" models that are easy to interpret necessarily lead to better "abstraction" (whatever that means). And whatever this all has to do with "contextual adaptation" is to me anyone's guess.

Highly alarming (but sadly, from experience, unsurprising) to see such fuzzy position document from such an important funding agency for AI.

Re: A DARPA Perspective on Artificial Intelligence [pdf]

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Post by akomtu »

gibsonf1 wrote: post #24
hiddencost wrote: post #14

I wonder who is trying to get what funded? "Second wave" is going gangbusters, despite Gary Marcus' every-six-months rant; the review of statistical learning is reasonable given a barely technical audience, but the summary of "third wave" seems designed to extract large amounts of funding from people who aren't up to date on the state of the field.

Theranos got a great deal of funding too, and the truth about how none of the "Second Wave" ML self driving car technology comes even remotely close to safe self driving will be coming out probably later this year. The issue is that ML has no conceptual and causal understanding of anything. For confirmation, I've been carefully watching the countless "self driving" startups in San Francisco driving around, and I have…

None of those self-driving MLs have a virtual world model in their "head", right? They just react to the latest video frame. If so, it's not even a fish level intelligence, it's more like a house plant.
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