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Norwegian developer job board for Ukrainian refugees
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Re: Norwegian developer job board for Ukrainian refugees
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While it's not nice, it's pretty obvious why European countries are happier to welcome the easily integrated white christian European Ukrainians than the significantly more difficult to integrate Middle Eastern refugees.
I think it's a mistake to narrow it down to religion. Countries with high corruption have a different social contract, and it takes time for people to internalise how things are done 'over here'.
Ukraine is a highly corrupt country. The worst in Europe. It is 122nd out of 180 countries, Norway is placed 4th. So that's probably not a criterium they used.
Re: Norwegian developer job board for Ukrainian refugees
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
While it's not nice, it's pretty obvious why European countries are happier to welcome the easily integrated white christian European Ukrainians than the significantly more difficult to integrate Middle Eastern refugees.
I think it's a mistake to narrow it down to religion. Countries with high corruption have a different social contract, and it takes time for people to internalise how things are done 'over here'.
Ukraine is (was?) the most corrupt country in Europe. It's got nothing to do with that.
Re: Norwegian developer job board for Ukrainian refugees
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
While it's not nice, it's pretty obvious why European countries are happier to welcome the easily integrated white christian European Ukrainians than the significantly more difficult to integrate Middle Eastern refugees.
I think it's a mistake to narrow it down to religion. Countries with high corruption have a different social contract, and it takes time for people to internalise how things are done 'over here'.
According to the Council of Europe, Ukraine is the most corrupt country on the continent after Russia.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enp...
Re: Norwegian developer job board for Ukrainian refugees
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Well, they are essentially being used to tell us every day EU should close border around Ukraine to make it fair and lock Ukrainians inside. Which is something Putin would like, sure.
By quick google, Norway now established 8000 places for Ukrainian refugees. They in fact took in Syrian refugees too looking at google results - finally ending up with 30000 additional people over that.
And third, the bad situation of Syrian refugees is also because surrounding countries do close refugees to camps with no future for them. No one ever seem to blame them.
Re: Norwegian developer job board for Ukrainian refugees
#26There's already a number of comments trying to spin this in one racially loaded way or another discrimination loaded way or such. Please stop. I'll try to explain why your take is misguided with a parable which you can no doubt poke countless holes into.
Say you've lived in one place your whole life. You have a neighbour, and they've lived their whole life there as well. One day your neighbour comes to you and asks for a hundred bucks because they've fallen on hard times. Now compare this to a stranger on the street asking you for a hundred because they say they've fallen on hard times.
People go up and above for Ukraine because they're that neighbour. Many have friends, family and/or relatives there. Many have travelled there. This is not about race, or religion, or any kind of hate. We're helping our neighbour.
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Willing to bet most people, especially in Europe, work with a lot more Ukrainian contractors already anyway. I know of a bunch of people who have had their devs flee and have worked them out accommodation or accommodation for their families in Poland etc.
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It's a strawman and I'm tiring of reading it everywhere. Ukrainians are Europeans, it's normal they're flying to neighbouring countries, that is European ones. Syrians are Middle-Easterners, it would be logical for them to flee to wealthy neighboring countries (most does: Lebanon is hosting millions of them) which are geographically, linguistically, culturally and religiously closer to them like Saudi Arabia or Israel. Europe doesn't owe anything to non-Europeans, especially when there are millions.
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> I wonder how Syrian refugees would feel about this, considering that they also fled to EU from a war zone with Russian ranks.
It is a little disingenuous to blame Russians for Syrian refugees, given that we already had tens of millions of people that left Syria before Russia joined the party started by IS and other Islamists and escalated by the US/NATO.
Re: Norwegian developer job board for Ukrainian refugees
#30There's already a number of comments trying to spin this in one racially loaded way or another discrimination loaded way or such. Please stop. I'll try to explain why your take is misguided with a parable which you can no doubt poke countless holes into. Say you've lived in one place your whole life. You have a neighbour, and they've lived their whole life there as well. One day your neighbour comes to you and asks f…
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