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Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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Just here to share that if you haven't tried Apple Music for its lossless and Dolby Atmos sound quality then you really, really, should. Apple Music does not have a great UI but it is definitely worth the trade off. Tidal sounds great, but they make you pay extra for lossless and have a smaller catalogue.

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Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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So the bigger news here is GCP had a global outage. How'd that happen? It mentions a pipeline deployment introduced a bug ( https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/LuGcJVjNTeC5Sb9pSJ... ) but why weren't they doing staged deployments to region(s) at a time?

This is now 'par for the course' with GCP.

A recent example, Firefox's Jan 2022 outage was due to an unannounced change deployed by GCP to their load balancers.

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/02/retrospective-and-technica...

I've read several GCP related stories over the years so my opinion of them has fallen quite a bit. For some reason GCP does not get the flak they deserve, and their role in outages tend to be downplayed, while AWS and Azure are scrutinized and raked over the coals for smaller incidents.

Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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So the bigger news here is GCP had a global outage. How'd that happen? It mentions a pipeline deployment introduced a bug ( https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/LuGcJVjNTeC5Sb9pSJ... ) but why weren't they doing staged deployments to region(s) at a time?

This is now 'par for the course' with GCP. A recent example, Firefox's Jan 2022 outage was due to an unannounced change deployed by GCP to their load balancers. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/02/retrospective-and-technica... I've read several GCP related stories over the years so my opinion of them has fallen quite a bit. For some reason GCP does not get the flak they deserve, and their role in outages tend to be dow…

They don’t get flak because most folks are in AWS or Azure. You notice when AWS or Azure hiccups because of this. GCP, not so much (besides Spotify and Snap, although I believe Snap’s 5yr $2B GCP commit deal recently ended).

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Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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So the bigger news here is GCP had a global outage. How'd that happen? It mentions a pipeline deployment introduced a bug ( https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/LuGcJVjNTeC5Sb9pSJ... ) but why weren't they doing staged deployments to region(s) at a time?

Traffic Directors config is global. I assume it was some kind of config system bug.

Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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Just here to share that if you haven't tried Apple Music for its lossless and Dolby Atmos sound quality then you really, really, should. Apple Music does not have a great UI but it is definitely worth the trade off. Tidal sounds great, but they make you pay extra for lossless and have a smaller catalogue.

> lossless and Dolby Atmos sound quality General headphone recommendation? Best I have is an MDR-7506 but I don't think it's meant for listening rather producing.

I use these for both without issue.

Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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Just here to share that if you haven't tried Apple Music for its lossless and Dolby Atmos sound quality then you really, really, should. Apple Music does not have a great UI but it is definitely worth the trade off. Tidal sounds great, but they make you pay extra for lossless and have a smaller catalogue.

Reminder that Apple pays artists better too (average penny per stream over Spotify's average 3-4 tenths of a penny per stream). And that Spotify is led by people who think artists who want that level of compensation are "entitled": https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/06/29/spotify-executiv...

But its not like Spotify is making billions off the artists. They barely break even. Their margins are very very tiny in the first place.

Obviously Apple can afford to pay a lot lot more. Now obviously you can say that if they can't afford it they shouldn't be in business, but you can say the exact same for the record labels/artists. They can just pull their songs from Spotify.

Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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So the bigger news here is GCP had a global outage. How'd that happen? It mentions a pipeline deployment introduced a bug ( https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/LuGcJVjNTeC5Sb9pSJ... ) but why weren't they doing staged deployments to region(s) at a time?

This is now 'par for the course' with GCP. A recent example, Firefox's Jan 2022 outage was due to an unannounced change deployed by GCP to their load balancers. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/02/retrospective-and-technica... I've read several GCP related stories over the years so my opinion of them has fallen quite a bit. For some reason GCP does not get the flak they deserve, and their role in outages tend to be dow…

>unannounced change deployed by GCP to their load balancers

Google doesn't need to announce every change they make. It was Firefox's fault for not supporting the protocol correctly.

Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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Just a reminder that downloaded audio files work offline, can have very high or lossless quality not restricted by bandwidth, have a concept of ‘ownership’ with no DRM, don’t have ads or tries to sell your data (though voluntarily contributing to ListenBrainz is admirable), don’t require a monthly fee, and if bought legally gives a bigger slice of the money pie to artists. Also podcasts are just RSS audio.

Re: Incident report: Spotify outage on March 8

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Just here to share that if you haven't tried Apple Music for its lossless and Dolby Atmos sound quality then you really, really, should. Apple Music does not have a great UI but it is definitely worth the trade off. Tidal sounds great, but they make you pay extra for lossless and have a smaller catalogue.

I'd bet my next paycheck you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind test.

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