If Russia wanted to double down on cyber attacks, kidnapping some senior dev families and forcing them to compromise JetBrains could be something they might try. I don’t even know what else to use for c++ dev, JetBrains tools are so far ahead of everyone else. Visual studio is so unpleasant to use and needs resharper to be usable
JetBrains suspends R&D activities in Russia and sales in Russia and Belarus
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Re: JetBrains suspends R&D activities in Russia and sales in Russia and Belarus
#22Wondering how many laid off?
Re: JetBrains suspends R&D activities in Russia and sales in Russia and Belarus
#23If Russia wanted to double down on cyber attacks, kidnapping some senior dev families and forcing them to compromise JetBrains could be something they might try. I don’t even know what else to use for c++ dev, JetBrains tools are so far ahead of everyone else. Visual studio is so unpleasant to use and needs resharper to be usable
Realistically I don't think there is a chance of that happening. Jetbrains was based out of Moscow (they are a Russian company IIRC) but now they have offices around the globe. If Russia tied doing this, JetBrains would immediately cut off access to those offices/workers and probably sound the alarm to the media on what is going on.
Re: JetBrains suspends R&D activities in Russia and sales in Russia and Belarus
#24Wondering how many laid off?
Why? None. JB is a very rich company.
Jb is in Czech officially, but these sanctions are also far more inclusive this time.
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#25Does anyone know how that works ? I'd be open to seeing what is the internal communication. Will the Russian employees be in furlough ? Will they cut access ? How is the business supposed to move forward ?
It's hard to see how they could pay people with so many financial institutions cutting ties.
Buildings will remain unoccupied.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Realistically I don't think there is a chance of that happening. Jetbrains was based out of Moscow (they are a Russian company IIRC) but now they have offices around the globe. If Russia tied doing this, JetBrains would immediately cut off access to those offices/workers and probably sound the alarm to the media on what is going on.
Never based out of Moscow, never a Russian company. The founders are Russian but the company has always been based in Prague, although a lot of the employees work from Russia.
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#27If Russia wanted to double down on cyber attacks, kidnapping some senior dev families and forcing them to compromise JetBrains could be something they might try. I don’t even know what else to use for c++ dev, JetBrains tools are so far ahead of everyone else. Visual studio is so unpleasant to use and needs resharper to be usable
Re: JetBrains suspends R&D activities in Russia and sales in Russia and Belarus
#28Compare the current page [1] with the archived one [2] from three days ago
[1] https://www.jetbrains.com/company/contacts/#headquarters-int...
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20220309000203/https://www.jetbr...
Re: JetBrains suspends R&D activities in Russia and sales in Russia and Belarus
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being in a rough neighborhood, "founded in Prague, Czech Republic, 22 years ago" their position about Russia's "special military operation" is more than the usual vapid posturing by entities with little or no skin in the game, but you would think they would have thought about their vulnerable employees still in Russia before publicizing that position. Makes me wonder what else they might do purely for "political" rea…
> another reason I'll be sticking with my FOSS development tools. Here is the repository for IntelliJ [1]. It has an Apache 2.0 license. That is - by any definition - FOSS. It’s clear you have some form of agenda with “political reasons” mentioned. Why not stop being coy and spell it out? [1]: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community
Re: JetBrains suspends R&D activities in Russia and sales in Russia and Belarus
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Never based out of Moscow, never a Russian company. The founders are Russian but the company has always been based in Prague, although a lot of the employees work from Russia.
Based on relative size of Russian and Prague offices, around 1500 out of total 1900 employees worked in Russia.
- CEO is a Russian who lives in Cyprus now: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sergey-dmitriev-05b581/
- Cofounder is Russian, probably lives in Russia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentin-kipyatkov-13569590/?ori...
- CEO is Russian, lives in the Netherlands: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximshafirov/
- CAO is Russian, lives in the Netherlands: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yury-belyaev-a1608b5a/
- SVP of investments is Russian, lives in Russia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yaivanov/
- development lead is Russian, lives in Germany: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximmossienko/
Kotlin was named after an island in St. Petersburg archipelago. Kotlin project lead is Russian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/relizarov/
Kotlin core contributors seem to be mostly Russian: https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin/graphs/contributors
So it definitely isn't a decision what won't have any effect on the company.