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Covid Policy Killed My Grandmother

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Re: Covid Policy Killed My Grandmother

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Correlation is not causation. As sad as it is, saying that a 95 year old doesn't suffer from age related decline is a tall assumption. What is the purpose of nursing homes for advanced aged people? That is the question that one has to answer, i guess. Is it to keep them alive and physically healthy? I'm sure there are disagreements on this. But if it is not this, what is the purpose? To give t hem as much joy as possible without regard to longevity? A Nursing home likely cannot customize the priorities per patient. If a person wants a different priority than what is supplied i suppose they are on their own to supply that.

Re: Covid Policy Killed My Grandmother

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Counterpoint 1: Sweden delayed locking down nursing homes and then implemented it really poorly. A huge percentage of COVID deaths were due to a nurse getting sick, coming to work anyway and basically killing half of the residents. Without lockdowns your 95 old grandmother would probably have been dead by now. Counterpoint 2: did you take care of her and talked to her everyday, or maybe taken her home? Otherwise at 9…

>>Sweden delayed locking down nursing homes and then implemented it really poorly. Canada locked down nursing homes completely yet 98.5% of COVID deaths were in nursing homes. After a year, a hundred and fifty thousand nursing home patients were still confined in their room in the province of Ontario: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/long-term-care-covid-... What has been done to so many people, in the name of…

Also in Ontario: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/long-term-care-pandemic-cov...

>> Several of the assessments noted unsafe conditions that could help spread COVID-19, including instances where patients who had tested positive for the virus "were allowed to wander" and staff members left with inadequate personal protective equipment.

Personally, I believe the virus would have spread regardless of the isolation techniques used (and can be demonstrated to have in other places with stricter policies).

Regardless, why the residents themselves weren't in charge of the policy on lockdowns is stupid in my opinion.

Re: Covid Policy Killed My Grandmother

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post #16

Counterpoint 1: Sweden delayed locking down nursing homes and then implemented it really poorly. A huge percentage of COVID deaths were due to a nurse getting sick, coming to work anyway and basically killing half of the residents. Without lockdowns your 95 old grandmother would probably have been dead by now. Counterpoint 2: did you take care of her and talked to her everyday, or maybe taken her home? Otherwise at 9…

>>Sweden delayed locking down nursing homes and then implemented it really poorly. Canada locked down nursing homes completely yet 98.5% of COVID deaths were in nursing homes. After a year, a hundred and fifty thousand nursing home patients were still confined in their room in the province of Ontario: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/long-term-care-covid-... What has been done to so many people, in the name of…

> Canada locked down nursing homes completely yet 98.5% of COVID deaths were in nursing homes.

Isn't this explained by Canada's outstanding response to COVID that allowed it to have a much lower death rate than analogous countries such as the US?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60380317

If your death rate is much lower because you succeed in protecting the bulk of the population, your death rate will be disproportionally comprised of the most vulnerable and at-risk groups.

Re: Covid Policy Killed My Grandmother

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>Sweden delayed locking down nursing homes and then implemented it really poorly. Canada locked down nursing homes completely yet 98.5% of COVID deaths were in nursing homes. After a year, a hundred and fifty thousand nursing home patients were still confined in their room in the province of Ontario: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/long-term-care-covid-... What has been done to so many people, in the name of…

> Canada locked down nursing homes completely yet 98.5% of COVID deaths were in nursing homes. Isn't this explained by Canada's outstanding response to COVID that allowed it to have a much lower death rate than analogous countries such as the US? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60380317 If your death rate is much lower because you succeed in protecting the bulk of the population, your death rate will be disp…

Canada's outstanding response vis-a-vis the US is most likely just having a lower proportion of its population constituted by high-risk demographics like black people, and people with diabetes and obesity.

Re: Covid Policy Killed My Grandmother

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This is what happens when health policy is based on media optics and public opinion, along with a myopic view on “health”. Can’t really blame health authorities too much, they would have met a lot more criticism if they had a more loose Covid policy.

Some other countries had looser COVID policies. Did their health authorities meet a lot of criticism?

Based on few examples, even countries with very loose policies did receive a lot of criticism from their population. There are just kind of people who find a way to complain.
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