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YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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I’m becoming more convinced that the future I’ve been planning simply won’t be possible in the decades to come. The world is scarcely recognizable. And having experienced nothing but peace and prosperity makes me feel woefully unprepared.

The WEIRD world is becoming increasingly more authoritarian. I’m already detached from real conflict and scarcity, knowing nothing but peace and prosperity, and the TikTok generation behind me meming about WW3 doesn’t inspire much confidence.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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One of the hosts wrote this about it [1]: particularly appropriate quote: > What casual observers might not understand, however, is just how far the policy goes. Not only does YouTube punish channels that spread misinformation, but in many cases, it also punishes channels that report on the spread of misinformation. The platform makes no distinction between the speaker and the content creator. If a channel produces a…

> If a channel produces a straight-news video that merely shows Trump making an unfounded election-related claim—perhaps during a speech, in an interview, or at a rally—YouTube would punish the channel as if the channel had made the claim, even if no one affiliated with the channel endorsed Trump's lies. Welcome to our new algorithmic future, brought to us by VCs and software engineering. Suppression of misinformatio…

>However building massively scaled platforms for information dissemination ensures that it will be done by robots with no judgement (either the machine kind, or poorly paid people following a script).

The article makes it seem as if a human made the decision, not an algorithm. At the very least, humans came up with the policy and wrote the algorithms, and could override them if they wanted to.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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I see a number of defamation cases Google won based on neutrality being relitigated in the near future. But that's okay, they have deep pockets.

The CDA ensures that any operator of an interactive computer service is not liable for user uploaded content, even if the operator curates user content.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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This is inexcusable. Just cancelled my YouTube premium subscription. All they did was play a clip from CPAC. I wish nothing but the worst for Google.

Over the past year I've switched from Google search to DDG; Google Maps to Apple Maps; Chromecast to Apple TV+; and Drive to Dropbox. I've held off on switching away from Gmail, but I'm switching to something else tonight. Suggestions welcome. By the way, not that I would support this at all (since I believe in free speech), but any idea if any speeches from Putin or Xi, or official government accounts from either co…

I personally use ProtonMail but have been looking at FastMail or Hey.com because the encryption on ProtonMail can be cumbersome for setting up external email clients.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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To be fair they let Trump run with this stuff a long time. It was really only after he led an attempted insurrection based on these "claims" that they shut down his ability to keep spreading this stuff.

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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For those of us who lived through the years of "selected not elected" it is a remarkable double standard. Or, being charitable, a remarkable reversal of opinion.

(I tried to slip the expression "flip flop" in there as a joke since that was a popular and widely over-used term at the time too, but I couldn't make it work).

Re: YouTube suspends The Hill for playing clip of Trump denying election results

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> Only Republicans lie about elections — when we do it, it’s “fortifying” and “election integrity”.

Bingo, it will be couched in those terms as well as "voting rights". To them, if you aren't picked up and given a free ride by an Uber to a polling place, then fed and given free water while waiting in line, then given a free ride back to your house, the election is being interf- I mean, "voting rights" are being trampled.

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