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AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by DanielRibeiro »

aespinoza wrote: post #18
DanielRibeiro wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use delicious on a daily basis, and I feel that the problem it solves is very much alive. Maybe I am a bit of a power user, as I search and tag (and love the automatic tag suggestions) all my delicious links from a FF plugin. But I believe it is still a solution for a very persistent problem, and as long as it solves it, it will be able to survive very well in today's web.

I agree. I use delicious on a daily basis. The problem it solves is there. The main problem is the fact that they are doing a crappy job at releasing. I don't think they planned this very well.

Agreed. I had my fair share of problems with Delicious these days. The linked article is very relevant. But I wish it was better, not gone.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by Toddward »

I haven't been following this as closely as others (primarily because I was never a heavy delicious user), but was there a lot of pressure on AVOS to push out the new version as quickly as possible? I find it hard to believe that a company would try to relaunch a product without transferring a good amount of the historical data that makes it so useful.

They should have taken their time and gotten it right. You only get one chance to make a first impression.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by wyclif »

tptacek wrote: post #14

Good time to be Pinboard! I'm sympathetic to the "real names only" terms that some services run under, but for a bookmark sharing service that policy provides no end-user value. This is a service I think you should pay money for, instead of allowing yourself to be the product the company is selling to others.

Does anyone really doubt that Pinboard is the true heir of del.icio.us? I think payment is really a core part of the DNA of their service, because it allows Maciej to make it reliable-- exactly what is needed in a bookmarking/tagging utility on the web.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by Hisoka »

DanielRibeiro wrote: post #5
teej wrote: post #3

I can understand why hardcore lovers of the old Delicious are upset at the "changes". Change can be really tough if you've stuck with a site through that many years. But in the end, the old Delicious isn't changing - it's dead. What now exists is an entirely new site under the delicious coat of arms. What users dont understand is that there is no "going back". It's upsetting that your beloved site is dead, but mourn…

I use delicious on a daily basis, and I feel that the problem it solves is very much alive. Maybe I am a bit of a power user, as I search and tag (and love the automatic tag suggestions) all my delicious links from a FF plugin. But I believe it is still a solution for a very persistent problem, and as long as it solves it, it will be able to survive very well in today's web.

Evernote has replaced the need for Delicious for me

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by john2x »

I could have lived with the changes (by ignoring them), but now tags are basically useless. All my tags since the change have been a mess between tutorial/tutorials, book/books, etc.

Any recommendations for alternatives? (I've already checked Pinboard but it has a sign-up fee)

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by aespinoza »

seunosewa wrote: post #17
aespinoza wrote: post #8

I think this needs a little more thought. Think about this: Delicious doesn't really have a successful business model (if any). Yahoo! was about to kill it. Now AVOS picks it up. Why would a startup pick it up? There is no way they can make a successful business out of the current state of the site. But Delicious does have one thing: a big set of users and their bookmarks. Information. It is obvious that AVOS was goi…

Here's a risk-free and inexpensive business model: just put Google ads on the website.

True, with the traffic they have it could have been easy. I don't think that is what they have in mind though. But at this point I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish.

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by listic »

teej wrote: post #3

I can understand why hardcore lovers of the old Delicious are upset at the "changes". Change can be really tough if you've stuck with a site through that many years. But in the end, the old Delicious isn't changing - it's dead. What now exists is an entirely new site under the delicious coat of arms. What users dont understand is that there is no "going back". It's upsetting that your beloved site is dead, but mourn…

> delicious of 2004 cant survive in today's web

For those that haven't got around to using Delicious, can you summarize why?

Re: AVOS’ Delicious Disaster: Lessons from a Complete Failure

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Post by Rotor »

sciurus wrote: post #20

That article needs to come with a huge "YMMV" disclaimer. I can still save my bookmarks via the bookmarklet. I can still view my bookmarks at http://delicious.com/sciurus . The transition hasn't impacted me at all.

Did you migrate your Delicious account to AVOS previous to the move?
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