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Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the unresolved myth I keep seeing in web3: > "dApps that are running completely decentrelized" ENS is basically a GoDaddy-like registrar but with blockchain and with all the .eth names still controlled by 7 keyholders in a 'DAO' with four of them only needed to override control (but not totally remove) the .eth TLD. Putting in 'trust' defeats the whole purpose of 'complete decentralization' . At least with Ha…

I’m not a fan of Handshake. The auction system is pretty much the worst system you could build for normal (ie: not rich) businesses that want to register their own names. Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being…

Interesting. However:

> Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free?

Or you can buy it off of them, just like you do anywhere else if you were too late to buy say, pets.com, nba.eth or .ftx/ which were all 'squatted and flipped' today. No different here and neither system aimed to totally prevent squatters, flippers and rent seekers. Because you cannot and you know that.

> Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being terrible for real businesses that want to build real value.

Are you going to say all of that to the Russian users on Namecheap who are getting their domains de-platformed? [0] Perhaps we loved .org getting into the hands of a private-equity firm didn't we? [1] or even the .io [2] and other TLDs price increases. [3]. All thanks to ICANN, right?

At least to some extent with either ENS or Handshake a registrar can't 'de-platform' the whole TLD nor can it be seized by anyone; nor can a government request to de-root an entire TLD. [4]

> How do I stop someone from typo squatting or violating my trademarks?

As I said before, nobody can stop that and anyone who has a popular online business knows that.

Even when you take them down, more typo squatters take its place. It happens everywhere. There will always be typo squatters even after trademark violations, unless you buy the domains off of them.

> I’m always surprised by the number of people that want lawlessness.

Lawlessness? I wonder how those 'criminals' can really cover their tracks by owning several domains on a public blockchain. /s

If you want true lawlessness, use Tor and scrambled .onion links followed by messaging apps like Signal with E2EE and sending private untraceable cryptocurrencies on encrypted blockchains like MobileCoin. It's what all the extremists and criminals use to fund their activities and lawlessness without a trace and no transparency.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21611677

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29403773

[3] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/04/ethos-capital-grabbing...

[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30509567

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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Sounds interesting. I like the notion of having an IPFS capable store with support for pinning at a reasonable price. When I looked into this a few years ago, this was a bit of a mess. There was a half-assed s3 plugin with some severe limitations that was a bit sketchy to setup and not a whole lot else in terms of what to do, best practices, or anyone offering commercial support for this. I liked the idea but our con…

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Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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This is the same price as Dropbox, roughly. $12/month for 2TB. I don't see the advantage.

Depending on your ethics, you might prefer not to fund a company that hires a war criminal. https://www.drop-dropbox.com/

Neither https://dropbox.com/about nor https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/DBX/company-people list her as being on the board anymore.

Edit: https://investors.dropbox.com/node/9146/html says she stepped down last year.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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post #9

This is the same price as Dropbox, roughly. $12/month for 2TB. I don't see the advantage.

The advantage is that the data would be stored redundantly with >>1 points of failure

Corrent me if I'm wrong, but aren't most cloud providers already providing redundancy in their EBS/equivalent setups? S3 had quite a lot of nines too

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The advantage is that the data would be stored redundantly with >>1 points of failure

Corrent me if I'm wrong, but aren't most cloud providers already providing redundancy in their EBS/equivalent setups? S3 had quite a lot of nines too

But arguably those have a single point of failure, the company owning the data. In theory Filebase is storing your data on a distributed system (that you can verify) that has no single point of failure. You can make this even more reliable by using two filebase-like providers to store the data. Thanks to IPFS you can access the data the same way and transparently use both providers so that if any single one is up you can access your data.

Of course it isn't perfect, if filebase goes bankrupt you need to scramble to get another set of pins for your data. But I think it does provide a much better system overall.

You can also imagine shifting the data around providers over time much like S3 storage tiers, maybe on provider provides cheaper storage but more expensive access, you can pin cold data there and remove it from your hot data provider. This would be completely transparent to any users.

It also provides interesting opportunities for bring-your-own storage. Users can just give my the CID and use it on my app/service. It will be around as long as they keep it alive. Or they can pay me and I can pin it for them.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the unresolved myth I keep seeing in web3: > "dApps that are running completely decentrelized" ENS is basically a GoDaddy-like registrar but with blockchain and with all the .eth names still controlled by 7 keyholders in a 'DAO' with four of them only needed to override control (but not totally remove) the .eth TLD. Putting in 'trust' defeats the whole purpose of 'complete decentralization' . At least with Ha…

I’m not a fan of Handshake. The auction system is pretty much the worst system you could build for normal (ie: not rich) businesses that want to register their own names. Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being…

I’ve lost auctions I’ve started by forgetting about it. I usually just hop on name base and send them an offer for the amount they bought it for. Usually they will sell it or be a dick and counter-offer a ridiculous sum.

I haven’t had any issue with it.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that hires a war criminal I must have missed the trial, how many years did she get?

The US putting their own war criminals on trial, that's funny. They don't even put foreign war criminals - sorry, "unlawful combatants" - on trial most of the time.

Other countries don’t put their “war criminals” on trial either. I witnessed another country violate the Geneva Conventions. Politically it was pandemonium, when the city found out, there were riots. No one went to jail or put on trial. Statements were taken, the guy got off with a slap on the wrist by his own country and some cash moved between hands to smooth things out. My point is, the US isn’t something special here, they’re just more transparent about it and/or journalists get more clicks for talking about it.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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IPFS is decentralized storage. I really don't get this concept of paying someone to "decentralize" your storage when if you just want someone to pin it then there are plenty of VPS providers that provide significantly more bandwidth for less. Just setup rclone and mount a cloud drive.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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More mass adoption, and browser extensions to support IPFS, and to resolve ENS names, and we're completely in the "web3" world. We just need a standardized way of mapping ENS names to IPFS CIDs to serve entry point for dApps that are running completely decentrelized.

There’s already a standard ENS field for mapping to IPFS CIDs! Look at the “Content” field on ENS records.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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IPFS is decentralized storage. I really don't get this concept of paying someone to "decentralize" your storage when if you just want someone to pin it then there are plenty of VPS providers that provide significantly more bandwidth for less. Just setup rclone and mount a cloud drive.

> Just setup rclone and mount a cloud drive.

Filebase isn't really for people that can - and want - to do that. Its for people with non-engineer management that want a dramatically cheaper S3.

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