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GNOME 3.2 Released

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Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by jessedhillon »

theatrus2 wrote: post #3
devinmrn wrote: post #2

Anyone else move away from Gnome recently? I've switched to XFCE and find the workflow better adapted to what I'm used to, I gave gnome-shell a month or two before I couldn't take it anymore.

I stuck it out with Gnome 2.x on Ubuntu, until I "had" to convert that machine to Windows 7 (for running IAR). Windows 7 is somehow an improvement over Gnome 3.

I recently installed Windows 7 on a machine after using Gnome 3, so I could give it to my parents. This was the first Windows I'd installed since XP, and Windows 7 is downright primitive by comparison. Gnome 3 supports my workflow very well -- one terminal fullscreened, running screen, one workspace for browsers, and one for mail.

I'm not sure what the complaints are about it, and to me it's preposterous to say that Windows 7 is an improvement.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by ugh »

So, what’s with Linux and margins? I thought they had solved that by now but nope, the margins are still all over the place, inconsistent and visually distracting.

I feel this is even more apparent now that they dialed up the margins even more.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by rbanffy »

FlowerPower wrote: post #15

Down to the "ON-OFF" button/switch it still attempts to look like something it will never be, MacOSX. Down.

Actually, I think I saw those first on iOS.

I see every car has a steering wheel. There is nothing wrong with interfaces that appear consistent across manufacturers.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by rbanffy »

clhodapp wrote: post #14
wazoox wrote: post #13

The "web application" trick is a great idea. I think we may see this idea stolen soon by all major OSes.

This type of functionality is already supported by on Windows, OS X, and, of course Linux-based systems through Chrome, Firefox, and even IE. I believe that the first way to get this type of functionality was to use Mozilla's Prism project, which has been around since 2007 (though that is just the first that I am thinking of off the top of my head). I never end up finding these sorts of things to be very useful, sinc…

Anyway, this moves support for web apps into the standard plumbing of the GUI. It's a good thing.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by rbanffy »

ugh wrote: post #22

So, what’s with Linux and margins? I thought they had solved that by now but nope, the margins are still all over the place, inconsistent and visually distracting. I feel this is even more apparent now that they dialed up the margins even more.

You know, everything you see on most GUIs (Gnome is not Linux-only, you know) is themable. If you feel inclined to help the designers make a prettier interface, you can easily find information on how to actually help.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by ugh »

rbanffy wrote: post #25
ugh wrote: post #22

So, what’s with Linux and margins? I thought they had solved that by now but nope, the margins are still all over the place, inconsistent and visually distracting. I feel this is even more apparent now that they dialed up the margins even more.

You know, everything you see on most GUIs (Gnome is not Linux-only, you know) is themable. If you feel inclined to help the designers make a prettier interface, you can easily find information on how to actually help.

Nah, thank you. I think I will rather just continue buying my OS.

I’m not really willing to invest more time than just trying it out from time to time nor do I understand why I should be.

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by chao- »

ugh wrote: post #22

So, what’s with Linux and margins? I thought they had solved that by now but nope, the margins are still all over the place, inconsistent and visually distracting. I feel this is even more apparent now that they dialed up the margins even more.

Please excuse my question, as I am quite design-inept, and often have no problem with whatever visuals are presented. I'm trying to figure out which margins are worthy of ire or inconsistent, for the sake of my own improvement on such visual matters.

The only difference/inconsistency that leaps out at me is that between the content of a window and its border, in which case there seems to be a clear divide between popup/info windows ("Save a Copy", "Color", "Online Accounts") and the more persistent, full-application windows ("Contacts", "Documents" and the image viewer).

There are differences between the spacing of other UI elements, for sure, but I don't really understand why one element should or should not be placed a consistent distance away from another. E.g. in the "Online Accounts" window, the All Settings button has identical top and bottom margins, but it is a different margin from left margin, as well as different from the margin between the white box in the pane below, and its container. Which of these, if any, would you change and why?

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by bkor »

Luyt wrote: post #17

I wonder why their showcase features a picture of a DigiNotar certificate [1]. Could it be that DigiNotar was in the news recently? From WikiPedia: "On July 10, 2011, a certificate was issued by DigiNotar's systems for Google by an attacker with access to their systems. This certificate was subsequently used by unknown persons in Iran to conduct a man-in-the-middle attack against Google services. On August 28, 2011,…

The screenshot was made when DigiNotar wasn't yet bankcrupt. The reason for using DigiNotar is because of two things: 1) my sense of humour 2) makes it really clear why you might want a certificate viewer. Ok, maybe a 3rd one: Dutch government initially saying they could still be trusted for some certificates.

It is not the only screenshot with my sense of humour though

Re: GNOME 3.2 Released

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Post by bkor »

jannes wrote: post #9

GNOME core modules now only depend on introspection-based Python bindings (pygobject-3) and hence pygtk, gnome-python and gnome-python-desktop are not required any more. Interesting. I have been out of the loop for a while. Does this mean that existing pygtk applications have to be ported to pygobject-3 or is it a simple "import" change?

They will still work, but switching to pygobject-3 requires to port the application. There is a script in the pygobject tarball/module which handles most (not all) of the changes.
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