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iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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iCloud+ seemed like a great value proposition for people migrating from Workspace, but there are quite a few hangups. Seems like Microsoft hits a good middle ground. Completely off topic, but why do people think having a sticky header indicating how far "through" an article is, is worth disrupting the content for?

We just went down the rabbit hole of trying to migrate to Microsoft 365 Family with custom domain. You (officially) need to move your domain to GoDaddy, which was unfortunately a blocker for us as they don’t support our domains TLD. From what I read DKIM also isn’t offered on Family which is disappointing. Business plans get expensive quickly when you want Office apps as well.

I know they really try to sell you on GoDaddy, but it's possible to set it up with using another registrar.

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I use ProtonMail because of their good support for custom domains. Their higher focus on privacy and security is nice, but it has little to do with why I chose them vs competitors. The only downside is you have to use the ProtonMail app or website on mobile, because of the way they do mailbox encryption.

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I'm optimistic that Apple is working on most of these issues (especially catch-all) right now and this is just representative of their new offering. Like many things I've seen from Apple it will take a release cycle or two (of 1-2 years per cycle) to bring in this arguably basic functionality - as is tradition we'll groan about other issues being held back in favour of fancy new features. I have no doubt they intend…

I would fear that Apple forgets about the feature after a few years and then just drops it. This is not central to their business and Apple trims such things very agressively.

I would always buy a domain-email from somebody who has this as their main business, and I would never couple my email to Apple which could lock me out of my account if they think I "behave suspiciously".

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After the end of legacy G Suite was announced, I tried using iCloud+ to forward my personal domain to Gmail. However, because iCloud does not seem to support ARC for forwarding, Gmail was sending too much to Spam.

I tried many other mainstream forwarding options and settled on Pobox as the best overall option, and moved my personal domain over. It's working pretty well, flowing to my regular Gmail account and having aliases set up in Gmail.

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After the end of legacy G Suite was announced, I tried using iCloud+ to forward my personal domain to Gmail. However, because iCloud does not seem to support ARC for forwarding, Gmail was sending too much to Spam. I tried many other mainstream forwarding options and settled on Pobox as the best overall option, and moved my personal domain over. It's working pretty well, flowing to my regular Gmail account and having…

When I got burned by the legacy G Suite announce, I had similar bad experience with Microsoft 365 for Families. They - for some reason - only support custom domains that were registered/moved to GoDaddy (there is unsupported 3rd party guides on how to bypass checks but anyone with the requirement of stable email reachability will obviously not rely on that). Too bad you find that out after you setup your account, billing, mailbox etc.

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I'm surprised Apple supports custom email domains to any extent. Apple is a consumer electronics company. Hosted email on custom domains is very distinctly not a typical consumer behavior.

Apple has been moving towards services as a major part of their business for the better part of a decade now

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I'm surprised Apple supports custom email domains to any extent. Apple is a consumer electronics company. Hosted email on custom domains is very distinctly not a typical consumer behavior.

It fits in great with the privacy narrative Apple has been pushing for and marketing for a while now. With their announcement of focusing on services, I think it makes perfect sense. Definitely not an easy problem for them to tackle, especially with what must be decades of legacy systems and various relays (Mac.com, Me.com, iCloud.com, ...).

Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better

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I'm surprised Apple supports custom email domains to any extent. Apple is a consumer electronics company. Hosted email on custom domains is very distinctly not a typical consumer behavior.

I suspect it is because Google suite threatens Apple’s office web offering.

Offering custom domains for personal can link up to office documents and this can make its way into business use.

For small businesses already standardizing on Mac hardware, it’s natural they should want to get the privacy and in-ecosystem utility of an apple version of Gsuite.

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