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Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

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After Firefox 4 came out I had to install so many extensions to make it feel like 3.6 that it became unstable and incredibly slow. Because Firefox apparently tries to be more like Chrome I decided to switch to the original and I haven't looked back yet. I only fire up Firefox when Chromes built-in developer tools lack functionality compared to Firebug, which is rarely the case. The way Firefox decided to take makes m…

What fundamental new is for new UI comparing with 3.6? I use Firefox for some way, only for firebug mostly. I think its just evolution of person, now I use what is most serves my needs.

Tab Groups are cool, but I don't think anyone uses them. If you're on Windows 7 it hides the menu bar for more vertical space. It has support for lightweight extensions (called "JetPacks" internally) which don't require a restart to install or uninstall. There's no statusbar, like Chrome, URLs pop up when you hover over a hyperlink.

The main advantage over Chrome is that it doesn't freeze up when it's loading a new tab.

Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

#24

>The ' http:// URL prefix is now hidden by default This can be changed back with browser.urlbar.trimURLs in about:config. They should've provided an option for it.

Note that if you copy/paste the contents of the URL box, the pasted text includes http:// or https:// or whatever was relevant.

Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

#25
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what bothers me most is that they made the whole top part (including title, menu bar etc if you choose to enable it) transparent. I personally just find that horrible. Screenshot: http://0.tqn.com/d/browsers/1/0/Z/c/-/-/firefox-5-show-menu-... Here is a screenshot comparing FF 3.5 to 4: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/12/500x_firefox... (3.5 is right)

Arguably, having the menu visible is not the default setup, is it? The default fold-out "Firefox" menu simply doesn't have that issue and is not transparent. I agree it's a problem in Thunderbird, which has a menu by default. I think that if you try to tweak Firefox 4+ to look like 3.6 you're going to run into suboptimalities. It evolved. I think that if you get used to the changes, they're actually changes for the b…

If you tap the Alt key, the regular old menu comes up. It's transparent.

Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

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Great. So now I have to be two versions behind if I need to use GWT hosted mode. (Grrr... yet more evidence of G's gradual sunsetting of GWT.)

I came here to see if anyone had anything to say about this. Hadn't heard rumblings about sunsetting GWT, but the conspiracy portion of my brain wondered if Google not trying too hard to keep the plugin up to date was a subtle push for GWT dev's to move to Chrome. :)

Last I checked the plugin for FF6 can be found here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=https://dl.google.com/d...

More discussion here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thr...

Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

#27
post #11

* Drastically improved memory handling for certain use cases ^^ apparently not the use cases I use. FF7's been running for about 12 hours on my win7 box and is using over a gig of ram just like normal... It started off good but then just kept growing over the hours. Nothing really improved here. :(

> FF7's been running for about 12 hours on my win7 box and is using over a gig of ram just like normal...

Are you looking at resident set size (aka real memory), versus virtual set size (aka virtual memory)?

The memory VMs in both Windows and Linux kernels will happily let an app malloc all they want until they hit the userspace address limit, with no affect on performance. It's only when those apps use the memory that there's a perf hit.

Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

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post #11

* Drastically improved memory handling for certain use cases ^^ apparently not the use cases I use. FF7's been running for about 12 hours on my win7 box and is using over a gig of ram just like normal... It started off good but then just kept growing over the hours. Nothing really improved here. :(

Is this memory that is needed for some other application you are running? Is your system running low on virtual memory? If not, what is the problem with FF using it? From what I've seen (at least with FF6), when system memory gets low FF will start to release memory back.

I'd rather have FF use the memory for cache to speed up performance than to have it sit unused.

Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

#29
post #15

After Firefox 4 came out I had to install so many extensions to make it feel like 3.6 that it became unstable and incredibly slow. Because Firefox apparently tries to be more like Chrome I decided to switch to the original and I haven't looked back yet. I only fire up Firefox when Chromes built-in developer tools lack functionality compared to Firebug, which is rarely the case. The way Firefox decided to take makes m…

I actually still run 3.6 since I like the UI on it better. The speed of the browser means very little to me, I'd rather have the familiar UI. If you liked FF 3.6, why not stick with it?

And FF 7 (which I've been using for about 5 months now) is not even noticeably faster than 3.6 on my usage pattern. In fact it seems to spend more time with an unresponsive UI than 3.6.

Re: Firefox 7 Live: Download Here

#30
post #11

* Drastically improved memory handling for certain use cases ^^ apparently not the use cases I use. FF7's been running for about 12 hours on my win7 box and is using over a gig of ram just like normal... It started off good but then just kept growing over the hours. Nothing really improved here. :(

What add-ons are you using? 95% of the time, problems with Firefox (speed, crashing, oddities) can be blamed on a slow add-on.
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