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it may just be an exucse to talk about Perl once in a while.
Yup, I think it's that, it's nice for perl users to find each other. Every second job I do seems to involve writing a lot of perl code. The release notes reminds me how much I still don't know about perl.
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> Pity you were so ugly > [1] Personal preference I am not looking for a fight :) Your wordings don't align with the disclaimer. That's like saying "you are an idiot, but hey, it's a personal perspective - I am not looking for a fight". FWIW, I have used perl heavily, and now a days mostly do Python and Ruby. My reasons for Python/Ruby are basically Nltk/Flask/Gevent, Rails etc and don't have much to do with the lang…
My words do. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I prefer many things about Python over Perl not just the syntax. I wasn't claiming that I think others are stupid for liking or using it, just my personal preference of what I like in a language. Perhaps I could have worded it a little less flame bait like: Pity I didn't like your idioms and we had to break up as my eyes and heart prefer Python. Any better?
The popularity and fan boy crowd seems to have moved to server side JS these days.
We are only days away from how people bash Python for more recent fancier options.
I like and use Perl and love seeing Perl news on HN, but do we really need the announcements of minor maintenance releases? Since people are voting it up, there is obviously some interest in it, but I don't get it. Plus, there's not even a changelog at the above link.
I would have been excited to see Perl6!
The next release is due soon and this includes some heavy refactoring so will be a lot quicker: http://rakudo.org/2011/08/19/rakudo-2011-08-release-status/ & http://rakudo.org/2011/09/09/nom-branch-default/
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My words do. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I prefer many things about Python over Perl not just the syntax. I wasn't claiming that I think others are stupid for liking or using it, just my personal preference of what I like in a language. Perhaps I could have worded it a little less flame bait like: Pity I didn't like your idioms and we had to break up as my eyes and heart prefer Python. Any better?
On the other hand I see a massive drop in Python's popularity these days. Earlier it used to get all the talk. Coffee tables, forum discussions, debates what not. Also few days back, I used to run into people choosing Python as a language for their project all the time. That seems to falling rapidly now. The popularity and fan boy crowd seems to have moved to server side JS these days. We are only days away from how…
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On the other hand I see a massive drop in Python's popularity these days. Earlier it used to get all the talk. Coffee tables, forum discussions, debates what not. Also few days back, I used to run into people choosing Python as a language for their project all the time. That seems to falling rapidly now. The popularity and fan boy crowd seems to have moved to server side JS these days. We are only days away from how…
It is a well established work horse so it has lost the mystic that attracts discussion and excitement. Never the less for getting shit done Python is a winner for me.
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Yup, I think it's that, it's nice for perl users to find each other. Every second job I do seems to involve writing a lot of perl code. The release notes reminds me how much I still don't know about perl.
It makes me mostly sad; I can't use features after 5.8. Moo(se) et al is what I do after $work. :-(
While it's disappointing that you don't get to use a newer perl at work, you should still be able to play with most of the shiny modules. There's plenty of CPAN authors still happy to do the legwork to make that so, because we don't want to exclude a bunch of people just because their perl5 VM sucks.
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Yup, I think it's that, it's nice for perl users to find each other. Every second job I do seems to involve writing a lot of perl code. The release notes reminds me how much I still don't know about perl.
It makes me mostly sad; I can't use features after 5.8. Moo(se) et al is what I do after $work. :-(
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> Pity you were so ugly > [1] Personal preference I am not looking for a fight :) Your wordings don't align with the disclaimer. That's like saying "you are an idiot, but hey, it's a personal perspective - I am not looking for a fight". FWIW, I have used perl heavily, and now a days mostly do Python and Ruby. My reasons for Python/Ruby are basically Nltk/Flask/Gevent, Rails etc and don't have much to do with the lang…
My words do. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I prefer many things about Python over Perl not just the syntax. I wasn't claiming that I think others are stupid for liking or using it, just my personal preference of what I like in a language. Perhaps I could have worded it a little less flame bait like: Pity I didn't like your idioms and we had to break up as my eyes and heart prefer Python. Any better?
I have been doing Python a bit now and am of the opposite opinion.
Except for CPAN I miss the advanced stuff like Moose (better OO) and extensible syntax.
I might be too new to the language. E.g., I don't really get the list comprehension -- it looks like a kludge around the lack of multi line code blocks, so Python can't have nice a map() syntax. But people seems to love the that syntax, so there should be more to it than a kludge?
But sure, Python has a minimal and elegant notation; it just changes a bit too slowly.
Also, try posting a flame comment like yours about Python in a Python thread; you'd be at minus ten in five minutes and stupid comebacks would be up voted to orbit. The fanaticism makes RoR kids look mature.
I like and use Perl and love seeing Perl news on HN, but do we really need the announcements of minor maintenance releases? Since people are voting it up, there is obviously some interest in it, but I don't get it. Plus, there's not even a changelog at the above link.
I would have been excited to see Perl6!