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Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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I, for one, am encouraged to see Mozilla try and create new revenue streams. I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

>it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

Perhaps, but Mozilla is also the company most centered at the intersection "mission we like and wish the company succeeded at" and "management doing stupid shit one after another"....

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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I, for one, am encouraged to see Mozilla try and create new revenue streams. I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

I'm always amazed when seemingly everyone in a thread on Mozilla has only negative things to say. I for one welcomed the UI change with the new tabs and look forward to give them some money if this MDN Plus turns out to be interesting.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm torn about this initiative. MDN should be governed by a foundation that can be funded directly , with content that is accessible for all. By introducing a paid service with private content, it will reduce incentives to contribute insightful documentation and guides to the free version.

Free content drivers people to the paid version. Is not like this model doesn't work. It's on every SaaS out there. Having a big paying community will drive more free content, as both the paying and free customers benefit from it. If free content start sucking, less people sign up. Plus, some content just isn't worth privatizing, like documentation.

I downloaded an open-source software today, and all over the UI were the buttons to upgrade to their paid closed-source version. Freaking hell.

Since it's open source obviously someone is going to chime in that I should spend my time removing these stupid UI elements...

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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Got to pay for that 7-figure CEO salary and fancy San Fran office somehow.

Yup, such a waste. Can't they work for free in their parent's basement like we expect other FOSS contributors to? While we use their stuff for free, never contributing anything back.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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I, for one, am encouraged to see Mozilla try and create new revenue streams. I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

>I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN That's what happens when you go around with a holier-than-thou attitude: they set high standars for the industry when they themselves fail to meet those standards every time.

Frankly, it's better than the race to the bottom that most tech companies are satisfied with.

My issues with Mozilla's leadership team were never about the vision, mostly about the execution. I don't like Brendan Eich's politics, or the cryptocurrency and borderline shakedown approach that he used to build and launch Brave, but the goal of keeping competition alive on the web? I could get behind that.

I don't like the recurring fallback to Google search revenue by the Mozilla leadership team, but it's kept Mozilla around to keep fighting the fight, and give the opportunity to find other options to keep fighting for their principles (which are not wokeness and leftism, despite what folks would have you believe - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ )

Choosing a hill to die on doesn't make you virtuous, it just makes you dead. Mozilla is alive and seems to be trying to move forward, and I hope they succeed.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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I, for one, am encouraged to see Mozilla try and create new revenue streams. I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

Because Mozilla, from all the looks of it, has turned from a company that innovated in the web, into a cash cow providing its CEO with means to support her luxurious lifestyle. This, as well as the fact that if I’d like to donate to the browser specifically, I can’t, screams “money laundering” and “corruption” to me. What else it is, if abysmal company performance is rewarded with bonuses?

Now there will come those saying that since it’s not a government, it can’t be corruption, they can go ans screw themselves in advance.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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> "Monthly articles with special depth on specific topics from industry experts as well as features to get more out of the MDN Web Docs" ... "includes the ability to use the MDN Web Docs offline, to create your own personal collection that you can access from any device, to be notified of changes to certain articles, and themes" I'm not particularly impressed. Does anyone really want to pay for the modern version of…

We're swamped with blogspam. I already attach "mozilla" or "mdn" to some searches, like some people attach "reddit", because information about base web technology is far better there than on w3cschools or $random_medium_post

> w3cschools

There is no such thing. There is the W3C, an international standards consortium that has published standards relating to the WWW, and there is W3Schools (no “C”), who seemingly picked the name to confuse people into thinking they were somehow a part of the W3C, which they frequently succeed at. The two organisations are not associated with each other in any way.

Re: Mozilla prepares to launch MDN Plus in March 2022

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I, for one, am encouraged to see Mozilla try and create new revenue streams. I hope I am not the lone positive voice in the thread - it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

>it does seem no company gets quite the same level of criticism as Mozilla on HN

People here literally accuse Facebook of being a global Orwellian totalitarian superstate that engages in genocide and MK-ULTRA style mind-control, but OK.

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