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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by smoldesu »

rco8786 wrote: post #16
smoldesu wrote: post #2

> youtube deleted 700 videos created for internal training for our company I don't mean to be an asshole, but nobody guarantees you that your videos will stay up perpetually on YouTube. Especially if you've got hundreds of private or unlisted videos, it doesn't particularly surprise me that YouTube would pull them down, even if only for petty reasons. If you've been following the state of their website over the past…

> "the cloud" isn't a panacea for your storage needs. Except that is exactly how cloud companies market themselves. That is exactly what cloud companies have been telling consumers for a decade+. Right up to the point of commercials showing someone lose a device and saying “no worries, it’s all in the cloud!”, etc. We’ve been told for years that our data is safer in the cloud than it is on our own devices. That the c…

Sounds like either side was complicit in the matter. Again, I know it's not an easy pill to swallow (I anticipate both these comments will be dead or grey in time), but that's just how computers work. All the effort we put into abstraction is worthless if it allows (or in this case, encourages) the end-user to make catastrophic mistakes.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by kodt »

______-_-______ wrote: post #10
markdown wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this, you know this, and OP has for damned sure just realised this, as has anyone else who's read this post. What the purpose of your comment? It's not helpful.

If even one person sees that comment and pulls their content out of the google ecosystem, then the comment was helpful. Run this: youtube-dl https://youtube.com/c/MyChannel and have a snack while it finishes. You'll thank yourself later.

Should not creators already have local copies of videos they upload to YouTube?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by indymike »

sodality2 wrote: post #7
markdown wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this, you know this, and OP has for damned sure just realised this, as has anyone else who's read this post. What the purpose of your comment? It's not helpful.

To give everyone else who hasn't done these things a harsh reminder of the damage it could bring if you don't.

Maybe leave out the harsh?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by coffeefirst »

smoldesu wrote: post #2

> youtube deleted 700 videos created for internal training for our company I don't mean to be an asshole, but nobody guarantees you that your videos will stay up perpetually on YouTube. Especially if you've got hundreds of private or unlisted videos, it doesn't particularly surprise me that YouTube would pull them down, even if only for petty reasons. If you've been following the state of their website over the past…

To be fair, the rise of these arbitrary AI-based deletions with no recourse are a drastic shift in how Google treats its users, and most people who don't work in tech or follow HN haven't caught on yet.

And why should they? Google actively markets itself as trustworthy. Unless you know someone who has been burned, the average non-professional YouTube user who just thought it was a sensible way to host their videos would not be aware of the pattern.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by shampto3 »

smoldesu wrote: post #2

> youtube deleted 700 videos created for internal training for our company I don't mean to be an asshole, but nobody guarantees you that your videos will stay up perpetually on YouTube. Especially if you've got hundreds of private or unlisted videos, it doesn't particularly surprise me that YouTube would pull them down, even if only for petty reasons. If you've been following the state of their website over the past…

If YouTube decided that they didn’t want to host 700 unlisted videos that’s perfectly within their right; however, if that is the case then they should tell the user why their videos are being taken down with a deadline for them to download their videos. It would be wrong for YouTube to claim your videos are “cyberbullying” just so they can free up some space.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by Ekaros »

kodt wrote: post #22
______-_-______ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If even one person sees that comment and pulls their content out of the google ecosystem, then the comment was helpful. Run this: youtube-dl https://youtube.com/c/MyChannel and have a snack while it finishes. You'll thank yourself later.

Should not creators already have local copies of videos they upload to YouTube?

They should. And if they don't it is clear the video have no future value for them. So why should it have for anyone else?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by sliken »

markdown wrote: post #5
implying wrote: post #3

As useless and pithy it is to say "just restore from backup", having your livelihood (or a significant time investment) depend on a system far outside of your control, where you have no service guarantees or even a billable relationship, is a fairly shaky ground to stand on. Ultimately if you spend your time producing digital assets, you should have taken action to ensure you had ownership and control over them somew…

I know this, you know this, and OP has for damned sure just realised this, as has anyone else who's read this post. What the purpose of your comment? It's not helpful.

Many people have a naive trust of free services. If your livelyhood/business depends on uploaded files, do not trust Facebook, Youtube, Gmail, Google docs, etc to store it forever.

I think it's important to mention that such trust is misplaced and risky, ALWAYS make backups. Sure it's generally common sense for many, but the OPs story is a nice example.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by stingraycharles »

sodality2 wrote: post #7
markdown wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this, you know this, and OP has for damned sure just realised this, as has anyone else who's read this post. What the purpose of your comment? It's not helpful.

To give everyone else who hasn't done these things a harsh reminder of the damage it could bring if you don't.

The grandparent’s post sounds like it was written towards the OP, though, not everyone else.

If that weren’t the case, I agree with you, it’s a good message to spread.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by sitkack »

If the account can still login in any capacity, please attempt a takeout of the the youtube account.

https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout/custom/youtube?p...

This will generate a link that could possibly have an archive of every video uploaded by that account.

You don't have have any contact information listed on your account page. Please do so.

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