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68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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You might think they are clueless but there is a method to IT's madness. I would not recommend publicly trashing anybody in corporate buying chain if you ever plan to go upscale and sell your services for 7 figures at CIO's level. Nobody appreciates being publicly called a fool.

CIO's job is to manage massive resources and organizations - first and foremost to keep the critical line-of-business systems running. For most of them cloud right now is neither the top priority nor a viable substitute for core infrastructure. You are right on with your strategy to get foot in the door to circumvent their slow-moving processes. However you should be thinking of how to work yourself into their higher-level planning process instead of positioning yourself as adversary of their corporate policy by calling it stupid.

Just remember, the CIOs have the power to ban technologies that sneak out through the back door. Alienate them at your own peril!

EDIT: Whoever down voted this, please post an actual substantive rebuttal.

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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The surprising thing to me is the lack of concern over the security of cloud services. There are real risks in not having proper data segregation or even know in which country your data is stored in. Or what the security at the data center(s) is like.

Subverting the bureaucratic channel at a large corporation to "get on the cloud" must drive the CPO and CSO nuts. There is a time and place for bureaucracy.

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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post #21

You might think they are clueless but there is a method to IT's madness. I would not recommend publicly trashing anybody in corporate buying chain if you ever plan to go upscale and sell your services for 7 figures at CIO's level. Nobody appreciates being publicly called a fool. CIO's job is to manage massive resources and organizations - first and foremost to keep the critical line-of-business systems running. For m…

>Just remember, the CIOs have the power to ban technologies that sneak out through the back door. Alienate them at your own peril!

I agree about the general idea of not throwing stones into the sky. They have a tendency to fall back down on one's nose.

However banning tools that were 'snuck in through the back door' because of their efficiency and because nobody had the heart to follow the actual procedure to get them through the front door strikes me as profoundly childish. Especially if it is done as some sort of vengeance, or 'just because we can'. In fact about just as childish as throwing stones into the sky.

I'm being a bit idealistic here. There will always be turf wars in BigCos. But hey if some people switched from trying to look like the best and brightest to getting stuff done instead, i'd be all for it.

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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post #21

You might think they are clueless but there is a method to IT's madness. I would not recommend publicly trashing anybody in corporate buying chain if you ever plan to go upscale and sell your services for 7 figures at CIO's level. Nobody appreciates being publicly called a fool. CIO's job is to manage massive resources and organizations - first and foremost to keep the critical line-of-business systems running. For m…

>Just remember, the CIOs have the power to ban technologies that sneak out through the back door. Alienate them at your own peril! I agree about the general idea of not throwing stones into the sky. They have a tendency to fall back down on one's nose. However banning tools that were 'snuck in through the back door' because of their efficiency and because nobody had the heart to follow the actual procedure to get the…

My point was not whether "banning tools that were 'snuck in through the back door'" is childish or fair or unfair. That's not even relevant. The point was that they have the power to do this and they do not hesitate to use it. Occasionally they even have valid reasons related to security and business continuity. Remember how all those defense / intelligence secrets walked out of the door on a USB stick and ended up on Wikileaks?

There is no place for idealism in selling to BigCos. You have to work through the process and build your case or someone else will steal your deal, possibly with an inferior product.

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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The surprising thing to me is the lack of concern over the security of cloud services. There are real risks in not having proper data segregation or even know in which country your data is stored in. Or what the security at the data center(s) is like. Subverting the bureaucratic channel at a large corporation to "get on the cloud" must drive the CPO and CSO nuts. There is a time and place for bureaucracy.

More accurately, there is a time and place for controls and discipline. You can have both without actual bureaucracy, or, more commonly, bureaucracy with neither of desirable ends.

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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So, how do you pitch the CIO on something the company is already using?

Salesperson: This software is so easy and ... CIO: Won't it be a big learning curve Saleperson: Well, actually, your company is already using our software

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes Basecamp "cloud"? There's a material difference between software delivered as a service and ephemeral IT infrastructure (cloud computing).

I think of cloud using @davenielsen's OSSM description: services that are On-Demand, Self-Service, Scalable, Measureable. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/d8...

You're just talking about hosted software, then. That's been around since the 90s...

Using Cloud to mean abstracted server infrastructure is much more useful. Otherwise it's just a meaningless catch-all marketing term.

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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post #26

So, how do you pitch the CIO on something the company is already using? Salesperson: This software is so easy and ... CIO: Won't it be a big learning curve Saleperson: Well, actually, your company is already using our software

Exactly.

What you pitch them is on buying larger license for the whole enterprise, increasing the usage and integrating deeper into their systems.

Getting from a handful of users to thousands is easier to do when you have both initial end user champions and the support of IT.

Re: 68% of the Fortune 100 are Clueless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't improve on this: http://everythingsysadmin.com/2011/06/avoid-using-the-term-c...

That's precisely how we look at it internally -- IaaS, PaaS, and SaaS. We speak in terms of "the cloud", as coarse and imprecise a term as it is, because that's what a lot of the people we're trying to reach are thinking in terms of and looking for. Plus, it just flows more smoothly than "IaaS/PaaS/SaaS" in a headline. :)

I like the terms *aaS, but I don't they don't exactly roll of the tongue (either four syllables or a too generic term that sounds silly and is easily confused with other things).
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