Now I understand what Tuco meant when he said "Sometimes you gotta rob to keep your riches."
The Day AppGet Died (2020)
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Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
But that forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled. For people like me who had WU disabled it didn't affect me at all.
> For people like me who had WU disabled ... Yes. This is the reason it is so hard to disable WU now. YOU are one of those reasons. > forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled Also I want to hear what kind of magic should they used to do that on people with WU disabled.
Also the fact that WU breaks things. Might be worth considering that.
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
But that forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled. For people like me who had WU disabled it didn't affect me at all.
> For people like me who had WU disabled ... Yes. This is the reason it is so hard to disable WU now. YOU are one of those reasons. > forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled Also I want to hear what kind of magic should they used to do that on people with WU disabled.
I would've been one of those people, if I'd ever had a security breach. At this point I've been saved so much time and hassle not putting up with Microsoft's nonsense I could spend a month dealing with a stolen identity and I'd still come out on top. Of course I'm not one of the numpties that runs untrusted JS in my browser or installs rando programs.
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#24Don’t ever forget that at its core Microsoft is still the same company we grew up with. Just because they’re singing sweet songs now doesn’t mean they’re fundamentally different. I know that there are a lot of developers on here that disagree with me and are all in on the ‘new’ Microsoft. I can’t change your mind. Ive watched Microsoft since the early 90s though and they’ve never really changed—-and buying GitHub and…
Just because they’re singing sweet songs now doesn’t mean they’re fundamentally different. Frankly I think it's only because Google, Facebook, et al. invented new kinds of evil too fast for Microsoft to keep up that they seemed warm and fuzzy at all. They're still the company that force-upgraded users to Windows 10, and they're still the company that's requiring you to have a Microsoft account for future versions of…
Well in my book the order is still something like Google About Windows 11: I switched my home desktop PC to Linux when I upgraded it early last year. I still have Windows 8 lying around mostly unused on a partition, but since it's a 32 bit version I would have to do a complete reinstall, and most of the software I'm using (including most games, thanks to Steam) runs just fine on Linux, so I haven't worked up the motivation to do it yet. And stories like this don't really increase my urge to install Windows...
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you talking about? Microsoft's Text-To-Speech APIs are the best on the market. Google's are definitely a distant second: not as many languages, not as many voices, and the output is nowhere near as good. After those two, there isn't really anything left worth mentioning.
Microsoft's Text-To-Speech APIs are the best on the market. Wow, I had no idea they were that good. Is there a way to get at them from a consumer level? For example, there are plenty of e-reader apps that use Google's TTS to read epub books as audiobooks. Anything similar for Microsoft or is it all on the developer side?
You can just try it out here from the browser if you like:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/cognitive-service...
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#26Here's an oldie, but goodie: http://www.theparticle.com/fun/fun.php?topic=microsoft&id=18...
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#27Good read. I’ve used chocolatey a lot plus a lot of other Microsoft installation tools. Windows has been crying out for a decent package manager for years. It’s amazing how little of a sh*t Microsoft seemed to give about stuff that open-source systems provide as a first class citizen.
As they care next-to-zero about decent tooling, it’s no surprise they care even less about independent developers like Keivan.
I’m pretty sure Windows is going to turn into a Linux kernel with a Windows API translation layer and specialised UI system for ordinary Joes.
I think it’s probably a lot more efficient that way and Microsoft has already lost the kernel battle to Linux. With the shift to the cloud, I assume Azure will become Microsoft’s dominant revenue stream, with Office second and Windows third.
At least that my guess.
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#28I dunno, getting inspired and copying all the ideas, deciding that they can do a good enough job internally instead of hiring Keivan doesn’t sound like a bad thing in and of itself.
It’s the stringing along that makes my blood boil. After reading things like this, I’m thinking, what I’d do differently?
Maybe have them reimburse all my travel upfront. No money, no meetings.
Also, bill all the meetings and conversations. Up front, given their reputation from this story. They want to spend my time, better show how serious they are. No money, no meetings, no false hopes.
But they know young geeks can be excited that someone at THE Microsoft noticed them, like in the Hollywood success stories, and walk an extra mile. Who knows, I could have lost my shit 20 years ago. This straight up exploitation irks me to no end. Reminds me of rock stars bedding teenage fangirls and similar shit, maybe this is why.
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
But that forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled. For people like me who had WU disabled it didn't affect me at all.
> For people like me who had WU disabled ... Yes. This is the reason it is so hard to disable WU now. YOU are one of those reasons. > forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled Also I want to hear what kind of magic should they used to do that on people with WU disabled.
There's a reason WHY people disabled WU. Microsoft might consider that, before going with heavy-handed approach.
Re: The Day AppGet Died (2020)
#30I've read this several times before, and every time I do it hurts just as much. Every time I read of another person who built something useful, so much so that it gets recognised by big-corp X, and being called in by Google or Microsoft, promised the recognition (and pay) they deserve, then having the rug pulled at light-speed from under them, I take it personally. I'm amazed, every time I read "The Day AppGet Died"…
Well. Cold reality is that even 5-year old kids know what sort of company MSFT is and what sort of people work for them. He acted like an useful fool, got treated like one. I even smirked a bit at his misery, even though I am normally not that kind of person.
Had he instead reacted to the phone call with some extremely aggressive licensing, maybe even a software patent, now he would be discussing the terms of the out of court settlement and choosing a color for individual seats in his new 7-series.