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Re: KeePassXC – Cross-Platform Password Manager

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Post by skipnup »

gruez wrote: post #9
ghoward wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KeePass, as far as I can tell, is inactive. KeePassXC seems to be the logical successor that is active.

>KeePass, as far as I can tell, is inactive really? looking at the keepass site: >Latest News >KeePass 2.50 released >2022-01-09 14:15. Read More » >KeePass 1.40 released >2022-01-02 11:42. Read More » >KeePass 2.49 released >2021-09-10 16:18. Read More » >KeePass 2.48 (2.48.1) released >2021-05-07 14:34. Read More » For something that just needs to store passwords, I don't see why there needs to be monthly updates o…

> For something that just needs to store passwords, I don't see why there needs to be monthly updates or anything like that.

Because usability and UI do make improvements (probably an unpopular opinion on HN...) and follows trends, KeePass does look completely outdated, the UX is completely outdated and the – nowadays – most important part, browser integration, is only achieved via plugins.

Don't get me wrong, I still use KeePass, but I would never recommend KeePass to non-technical users (and would think twice about recommending it to technical users) while I would recommend KeePassXC to my mother.

Re: KeePassXC – Cross-Platform Password Manager

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Post by willis936 »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #2

KeePassXC + syncthing to sync the database file has been a solid combo of secret storage across all my devices, even Android phones. It's been working perfectly for 5 years now.

I use KeePassXC (strongbox on phone) + Nextcloud. Everything is wonderful except for nextcloud hiccups. I recently uploaded a resume and realized after it sent that the metadata was incorrect and a local file rename must have been overwritten. Embarrassingly, I had to send an email with the right resume. I sent it from my phone. Right after I checked on the sent email and found that the nextcloud file through ios files uploaded 86 bytes of junk rather than my resume, so I had to send another email.

Re: KeePassXC – Cross-Platform Password Manager

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Post by otherme123 »

GordonS wrote: post #3

If I'm a happy KeePass user, and everything just works, is there any reason to switch to KeePassXC?

I find the browser plugin easier to install, at least on Firefox. I tried to set up the auto-type of KeePass, but it never really worked.

Plus, I'm not sure if KeePass can generate TOTPs (if it can, it's too hidden for me), but with KeePassXC is right there after an easy setup.

Still has both installed, but only use the XC.

Re: KeePassXC – Cross-Platform Password Manager

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Post by KronisLV »

skipnup wrote: post #21
gruez wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>KeePass, as far as I can tell, is inactive really? looking at the keepass site: >Latest News >KeePass 2.50 released >2022-01-09 14:15. Read More » >KeePass 1.40 released >2022-01-02 11:42. Read More » >KeePass 2.49 released >2021-09-10 16:18. Read More » >KeePass 2.48 (2.48.1) released >2021-05-07 14:34. Read More » For something that just needs to store passwords, I don't see why there needs to be monthly updates o…

> For something that just needs to store passwords, I don't see why there needs to be monthly updates or anything like that. Because usability and UI do make improvements (probably an unpopular opinion on HN...) and follows trends, KeePass does look completely outdated, the UX is completely outdated and the – nowadays – most important part, browser integration, is only achieved via plugins. Don't get me wrong, I stil…

> Because usability and UI do make improvements (probably an unpopular opinion on HN...) and follows trends, KeePass does look completely outdated, the UX is completely outdated and the – nowadays – most important part, browser integration, is only achieved via plugins.

This is a pretty good point, even if i'm of the opposite opinion!

To me, KeePass is wonderfully boring and usable, much like spreadsheet software (e.g. LibreOffice Calc), it doesn't waste space and does everything i need it to.

Furthermore, browser integration actually wouldn't be something i want - i'd prefer to keep those pieces of software as far from one another as possible. Though using the OS clipboard could also be problematic, of course, which is my current approach when i want to log into a site.

> Don't get me wrong, I still use KeePass, but I would never recommend KeePass to non-technical users (and would think twice about recommending it to technical users) while I would recommend KeePassXC to my mother.

Your argument about suggesting the more "modern" looking software to non-technical folks is a good one, though! Of course, at the end of the day, some folks will still store their passwords in plain text or Excel/Word files because the cognitive load of using any non-browser-based password manager is too much cognitive load for them. Or even using a password manager at all, hence we still get sticky notes with passwords etc., human nature isn't too likely to change anytime soon.

Re: KeePassXC – Cross-Platform Password Manager

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Post by gruez »

KronisLV wrote: post #25
skipnup wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For something that just needs to store passwords, I don't see why there needs to be monthly updates or anything like that. Because usability and UI do make improvements (probably an unpopular opinion on HN...) and follows trends, KeePass does look completely outdated, the UX is completely outdated and the – nowadays – most important part, browser integration, is only achieved via plugins. Don't get me wrong, I stil…

> Because usability and UI do make improvements (probably an unpopular opinion on HN...) and follows trends, KeePass does look completely outdated, the UX is completely outdated and the – nowadays – most important part, browser integration, is only achieved via plugins. This is a pretty good point, even if i'm of the opposite opinion! To me, KeePass is wonderfully boring and usable, much like spreadsheet software (e.…

>To me, KeePass is wonderfully boring and usable, much like spreadsheet software (e.g. LibreOffice Calc), it doesn't waste space and does everything i need it to.

agreed. keepassxc has much more padding/whitespace than keepass.

>Furthermore, browser integration actually wouldn't be something i want - i'd prefer to keep those pieces of software as far from one another as possible.

I'm mixed on browser integration. On one hand it's more convenient and can potentially be more secure (can protect against phishing attacks because it can check the url for you). On the other hand, having a direct link to your entire password vault is a massive attack surface. The ideal implementation for me would be an addon that can auto-fill credentials, but require explicit approval from the app to fill anything. To my knowledge no such implementation exists.

>Though using the OS clipboard could also be problematic, of course, which is my current approach when i want to log into a site.

Keepass has auto-type, which works around this.

Re: KeePassXC – Cross-Platform Password Manager

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Post by ww520 »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #2

KeePassXC + syncthing to sync the database file has been a solid combo of secret storage across all my devices, even Android phones. It's been working perfectly for 5 years now.

I have the same setup. One question, is there a Syncthing solution for iOS devices?

Re: KeePassXC – Cross-Platform Password Manager

#29

Post by theandrewbailey »

GordonS wrote: post #3

If I'm a happy KeePass user, and everything just works, is there any reason to switch to KeePassXC?

I switched to XC years ago when I discovered browser autofill support, TOTP, and SSH key functionality are all built-in and don't need plugins. (fewer things to set up and keep up to date) Since the database file format is the same, the switch was painless.
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