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Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Make something people want. Either people want it or they don't, but I say judge a startup by that and not just technical innovation.

Make something people need. That beats "make something people want" any day of the week. Apologies to PG, but it should be "need". Want is transient; need isn't.

Want may be transient, but need is subjective.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Make something people want. Either people want it or they don't, but I say judge a startup by that and not just technical innovation.

Make something people need. That beats "make something people want" any day of the week. Apologies to PG, but it should be "need". Want is transient; need isn't.

I agree with you on principle, but in today's society (which could be arguably described as hedonistic) people often seem to choose something they want over something they need.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Waiting for the first Yammer lawsuit due to corporate data being leaked...

good luck with corporate adoption considering yammer is indian slang for penis

Out of interest where did you see that?

I thought this might be an oversight, so I did a quick Google search using variations of "Yammer", "India", "penis", and apart from your comment could not find anything in the first 5 pages of results for any permutation.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Yammer: Coming soon to a corporate domain blacklist near you

The same day people where I work started sharing invites to the service it was escalated up the ladder as a risk. That's not to say Yammer's a bad idea. Just a poorly executed one. A better business model would have been to whitelabel a script or produce an appliance that companies could run on their own. Both would sell.

I agree that a script that could be run internally would be a much better idea but there are already twitter clone scripts available on the market.

I think it could be interesting to see some sort of quick asynchronous communication tool that was a part of a project management tool like FogBugz or Basecamp but was integrated with your account instead of being standalone.

What does everyone else think?

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Finally. I got an invitation at work for this the other day, I signed on, and was like, really? This won the Palme D'Arrington? It's sloppy, has SMS messages that sound like Yoda, and doesn't seem to interoperate with anything.

Does anyone else feel that TechCrunch's credibility has taken massive hits in 2008?

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

good luck with corporate adoption considering yammer is indian slang for penis

Out of interest where did you see that? I thought this might be an oversight, so I did a quick Google search using variations of "Yammer", "India", "penis", and apart from your comment could not find anything in the first 5 pages of results for any permutation.

certainly, it has got nothing to do with "India". perhaps, "native indian"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of interest where did you see that? I thought this might be an oversight, so I did a quick Google search using variations of "Yammer", "India", "penis", and apart from your comment could not find anything in the first 5 pages of results for any permutation.

certainly, it has got nothing to do with "India". perhaps, "native indian"

I wouldn't have thought so, after my post I did some (I'll admit not as extensive) searches for other potential variations using phrases like "slang", "indian", "yamma", "yama" and even did permutations in within quotes to see if it would yield anything.

The only thing that was even mildly related to India is "Yama" but he's a hindu deity of death, nothing to do with genitalia.

Yammer is an english slang word for "to speak incessantly about nothing" which pretty much sums up twitter.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, IT budgets are growing more slowly than they used to, but they are still bigger than they have ever been. The idea that 1$/user/month is outside an "enterprise" budget is laughable. Stop making things up.

I'm not making things up; I work in an 'enterprise'. (And I still dislike that term.) $1/user/month in a 40,000-person enterprise (smaller than, say, Oracle) would be $480,000/year, not a trivial sum to get in the current climate.

That presumes that every person in the organization signs up. Actual adoption is likely to be far lower.

Re: Yammer is TC50 Winner - This is a Joke? Right?

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My favorite part of this criticism was how the author implied that this would fail because corporations don't want their business data in the cloud (a viable concern), but then turned around and suggested that companies should make great software that people want, like 37 signals has done. Ironic.
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