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Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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tech workforce is generally liberal or are at least centrist moderate. Texas is not an ideal home for most of them. That stereotype is about a decade out of date. Texas is very much like New York, California, Washington, Nevada, Oregon, and most other American states: Blue large cities surrounded by red elsewhere.

Except all those states you listed are blueish (including purplish or very blue) where Texas is deep red.

The list was examples, and not exhaustive. It's also true in Arizona, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, and probably a bunch of other states that I'm less familiar with.

My point stands, though. The Texas thing is still a stereotype, and still at least a decade out of date.

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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cmd-f "Non-compete" then "compete." https://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/2/13/14580874/google-self...

Until Texas, or Washington State, or other relevant jurisdictions ban non-competes, California will continue to have a key edge, despite its varieties of political and social dysfunction.

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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My understanding is that a major reason why the Bay Area became the tech hub it did is because of academic institutions like Stanford and Berkeley, which in turn led to commercial enterprises like HP, Shockley, and Fairchild. From there, it was like dandelion seeds in the wind, with alumni from those companies going on to found AMD, Kleiner Perkins, Xerox PARC, etc. It seems to me that, until UT Austin catches up wit…

> academic institutions like Stanford and Berkeley, and dare I say politics. For various reasons, including the rather diverse nature of tech workforce due to a substantial number of immigrants and even otherwise, the tech workforce is generally liberal or are at least centrist moderate. Texas is not an ideal home for most of them.

No way. As a person of "overrepresented in tech" color, Austin is WAY friendlier to non-whites than California ever was. I regularly see groups of "bros" walking around/hanging out/eating out in interracial groups, which I would never see in the bay. There are LOTS of immigrants here, as well, though not as many as in Cali, but nothing to sneeze at.

And finally if Mexico can get its act together and (some city there) become a replacement for Shenzhen, access to Mexico will be huge.

It's not perfect. There is at least one thing on my mind that could hold back Austin, but it's not anything you mentioned.

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> academic institutions like Stanford and Berkeley, and dare I say politics. For various reasons, including the rather diverse nature of tech workforce due to a substantial number of immigrants and even otherwise, the tech workforce is generally liberal or are at least centrist moderate. Texas is not an ideal home for most of them.

No way. As a person of "overrepresented in tech" color, Austin is WAY friendlier to non-whites than California ever was. I regularly see groups of "bros" walking around/hanging out/eating out in interracial groups, which I would never see in the bay. There are LOTS of immigrants here, as well, though not as many as in Cali, but nothing to sneeze at. And finally if Mexico can get its act together and (some city there)…

I can see that, however the issue is Texas state laws apply to Austin. So you aren't exactly shielded.for example : In Texas, abortions are now banned as early as six weeks into a pregnancy. Known as SB 8, the new law represents the nation’s most restrictive ban on the procedure currently in effect. According to a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist national poll, Texas’ law is unpopular across the political spectrum. (https://khn.org/news/article/texas-abortion-law-rape-incest-...)

(disclaimer: this only applies to people who consider this a bug and not a feature)

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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post #24

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No way. As a person of "overrepresented in tech" color, Austin is WAY friendlier to non-whites than California ever was. I regularly see groups of "bros" walking around/hanging out/eating out in interracial groups, which I would never see in the bay. There are LOTS of immigrants here, as well, though not as many as in Cali, but nothing to sneeze at. And finally if Mexico can get its act together and (some city there)…

I can see that, however the issue is Texas state laws apply to Austin. So you aren't exactly shielded.for example : In Texas, abortions are now banned as early as six weeks into a pregnancy. Known as SB 8, the new law represents the nation’s most restrictive ban on the procedure currently in effect. According to a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist national poll, Texas’ law is unpopular across the political spectrum. ( h…

yeah that's the biggest one of the things that I think is holding back Austin. But I don't actually know. I vehemently dislike the law, but in the context of claim in the OP, this could be attractive to a certain type of tech person that wouldn't otherwise be in california. Who knows.

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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Except all those states you listed are blueish (including purplish or very blue) where Texas is deep red.

The list was examples, and not exhaustive. It's also true in Arizona, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, and probably a bunch of other states that I'm less familiar with. My point stands, though. The Texas thing is still a stereotype, and still at least a decade out of date.

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Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> academic institutions like Stanford and Berkeley, and dare I say politics. For various reasons, including the rather diverse nature of tech workforce due to a substantial number of immigrants and even otherwise, the tech workforce is generally liberal or are at least centrist moderate. Texas is not an ideal home for most of them.

No way. As a person of "overrepresented in tech" color, Austin is WAY friendlier to non-whites than California ever was. I regularly see groups of "bros" walking around/hanging out/eating out in interracial groups, which I would never see in the bay. There are LOTS of immigrants here, as well, though not as many as in Cali, but nothing to sneeze at. And finally if Mexico can get its act together and (some city there)…

Of course. Californians part themselves on the back for being anti-racist or whatever, but really it’s a bunch of mostly white women doing it.

The people that actually accept others just don’t talk about it, instead of treating minorities like children so they (the whites) can look like saviors.

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except all those states you listed are blueish (including purplish or very blue) where Texas is deep red.

The list was examples, and not exhaustive. It's also true in Arizona, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, and probably a bunch of other states that I'm less familiar with. My point stands, though. The Texas thing is still a stereotype, and still at least a decade out of date.

> The Texas thing is still a stereotype

Look into the latest abortion law, and voting law charges and statements from Texan politicians and …

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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The article contradicts its hypey headline: To be sure, the Bay Area has such a deep reservoir of tech talent, money and infrastructure, not to mention the climate and the ocean, that it won’t be easily knocked off its perch.

Seems like yet another clickbaity article. How many times have we seen this same story with different geographies? Every town on the planet with an internet connection and a chamber of commerce has named itself Silicon Prairie (at least three of them), Silicon Bayou, Silicon Gorge, Silicon Water, Silicon Alps, Silicon Glen, Silicon and on and on.

You missed my favorite iteration: Silicon Shire.

Re: Silicon Valley’s tech monopoly is over. Is the future in Austin, Texas?

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There’s no perfect city, so obviously there will be multiple major tech hubs in the US with different tradeoffs. As someone who has spent the winter in Austin to escape the cold of the North, it’s clear to me that Austin will continue to grow into one of these hubs. Will it surpass SF? Maybe, maybe not. However, I definitely see it becoming a major player on roughly the same level as other US hubs like SF, NY, and Chicago.
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