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The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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* In 2022 this kind vacuous, self-congratulatory pseudo-intellectualism typical to 90s stoner culture is just so stale and irrelevant* I'd say 30 years later his material is a little more obvious but being 30 years ahead of the curve is a pretty nice compliment. In my State pot is now legal, some psychedelics are decriminalized (and small amounts of any illegal drug is no longer a felony), and my partner does intense…

>He also wasn't positioning himself out as some super intellectual. He self-identified as being simply a, "dark poet".

The latter is more pretentious, in my view.

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>or even mount any serious opposition to the system he claims to despise

that sounds like something that would take a significant amount of time - people who die young often do not achieve many things that take significant amount of times, especially not things that are outside their main occupation in life. His main occupation was being a comedian, it seems reasonable to limit analysis of his achievements to that field.

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"If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men and women to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea."

It is not (always) the job of the critic to also play the advocate.

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* In 2022 this kind vacuous, self-congratulatory pseudo-intellectualism typical to 90s stoner culture is just so stale and irrelevant* I'd say 30 years later his material is a little more obvious but being 30 years ahead of the curve is a pretty nice compliment. In my State pot is now legal, some psychedelics are decriminalized (and small amounts of any illegal drug is no longer a felony), and my partner does intense…

I came to Hicks as a 13 year old in 2003.. when his material on the Iraq war got a second lease of life. Looking back, he was a critic of American imperialism - the "look, he had a gun" sketch for instance. That kind of criticism lasts. Not to mention the presciently pro-drugs take.

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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* In 2022 this kind vacuous, self-congratulatory pseudo-intellectualism typical to 90s stoner culture is just so stale and irrelevant* I'd say 30 years later his material is a little more obvious but being 30 years ahead of the curve is a pretty nice compliment. In my State pot is now legal, some psychedelics are decriminalized (and small amounts of any illegal drug is no longer a felony), and my partner does intense…

>He also wasn't positioning himself out as some super intellectual. He self-identified as being simply a, "dark poet". The latter is more pretentious, in my view.

I'd prefer a world with poets, comedians, and artists, however pretentious they may be, rather than an unpretentious world without them. You remind me of the simple folk of the land, the common clay of the West...

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That seems fairly reductive for such a wide breadth of work and influence, especially given the context that the US is and always has been essentially a two-party system. In such a system you’re either one, the other, or irrelevant.

Reductive is an understatement, it's basically trolling (or extreme bias, which is indistinguishable).

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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Sometimes I find these kinds of link submissions pretty baffling. "Here's a nearly 30 year old article about a dead comedian!" Thanks, I guess. But also: why? Why this arbitrary New Yorker article, as opposed to any other article written in the last three decades?

A post is just a suggestion, a proposition. If there was no place for it, or interest, then it would die in oblivion. But apparently people like bill hicks here!
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