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Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by erinaceousjones »

ahmed_ds wrote: post #11

Few weeks ago I actually installed WinAmp because I needed that nostalgia dopamine hit of Milkdrop visualizer and those sweet skins. I downloaded some mp3 files from a YouTube playlist using FFMPEG. Unfortunately none of the mp3 worked. I think it was an encoding issue. Then I remembered the last time I faced a media file encoding problem was close to a decade ago. We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software a…

For the visualizations - Milkdrop is alive and well as projectM (which sometimes comes bundled with VLC, sometimes not?): https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectm

Which has a ridiculous level of cross-platform compatibility. I can throw up 3 copies of projectM-pulseaudio on my big 3-monitor work machine and have it listen to any audio sink, I've got it installed on my Android TV and it happily responds to whatever audio's being played, so works with streaming apps and whatnot.

There's also thousands and thousands of presets you can add which the community has been adding to since way back when it was still milkdrop, and people have made curated lists like this person's NestDrop: https://thefulldomeblog.com/2020/02/21/nestdrop-presets-coll...

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by captbaritone »

ahmed_ds wrote: post #11

Few weeks ago I actually installed WinAmp because I needed that nostalgia dopamine hit of Milkdrop visualizer and those sweet skins. I downloaded some mp3 files from a YouTube playlist using FFMPEG. Unfortunately none of the mp3 worked. I think it was an encoding issue. Then I remembered the last time I faced a media file encoding problem was close to a decade ago. We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software a…

For anyone wanting to dip back into the nostalgia of Winamp and Milkdrop without installing any software, I made https://webamp.org for that exact purpose.

It can render real Milkdrop presets and real classic winamp skins directly in the browser.

Also, it’s open source: https://github.com/captbaritone/webamp

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by selfhoster11 »

bennyp101 wrote: post #10
richardfey wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The benefit of keeping it closed: squeeze some money from people googling winamp. Why would you give up that revenue stream? It might also have some residual allure to attract investment capital.

It must be there somewhere, a friend recently told me it’s in AUR - and I replied with “I don’t have mp3s anymore” he sent a screenshot of just under a TB of music. I guess some people just moved to streaming (me) and others stuck true to their roots

Spotify pretty doesn't have any of kind of music that I want, which is pretty surreal given their marketing. I subsist on YouTube playlists and a Bandcamp account.

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by selfhoster11 »

tomjen3 wrote: post #19
jraph wrote: post #3

For long, I wished Winamp would be open sourced. I don't understand the benefit of keeping it closed. I'm not sure I would be back to using it though. I'm used to my current player, which already does everything I would expect from Winamp, with a (arguably) worse look but much better UX. Audacious with the Winamp classic interface is also a great Winamp for those who (still) fancy this look and feel.

I have winamp on my old windows machine. I love the program, but it is so much XP are that it hurts. Let me explain: if you want to use your computer ofline, with a local store of MP3 files that you play on limited hardware without any impact on your computer, it is great. Go download it. However in practice you almost certainly won't want to do that. What you want is to be constantly connected to the internet, you w…

The problem of storing all the music in the world locally had been solved for a long time. Just get a bigger hard drive.

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by ancientsofmumu »

alamortsubite wrote: post #20
ahmed_ds wrote: post #11

Few weeks ago I actually installed WinAmp because I needed that nostalgia dopamine hit of Milkdrop visualizer and those sweet skins. I downloaded some mp3 files from a YouTube playlist using FFMPEG. Unfortunately none of the mp3 worked. I think it was an encoding issue. Then I remembered the last time I faced a media file encoding problem was close to a decade ago. We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software a…

I don't know about the visualizer, but Audacious lets you install Winamp skins. Source: rocking Bento Classified uninterrupted since 1999.

Audacious makes a great minimal streaming (icecast/shoutcast) desktop player once you futz with the UI a little to get it how you like for that purpose. Like you, years of trying out a lot of gui players but I go back to Audacious every time.

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

bennyp101 wrote: post #10
richardfey wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The benefit of keeping it closed: squeeze some money from people googling winamp. Why would you give up that revenue stream? It might also have some residual allure to attract investment capital.

It must be there somewhere, a friend recently told me it’s in AUR - and I replied with “I don’t have mp3s anymore” he sent a screenshot of just under a TB of music. I guess some people just moved to streaming (me) and others stuck true to their roots

I've also got about a terabyte of music.

Streaming is useful for me for discovery, not consumption. If I read an online or magazine article that means an artist I want to check out, the fastest way is usually searching for them on Spotify or YouTube Music.

But if I like what I hear and think I'll listen to it again in the future, my next step is to see if the artist is available on Bandcamp with high-quality MP3s/FLACs, or Amazon with AutoRips available. Failing that, I'll purchase the physical album and do the rips myself.

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by emerged »

captbaritone wrote: post #22
ahmed_ds wrote: post #11

Few weeks ago I actually installed WinAmp because I needed that nostalgia dopamine hit of Milkdrop visualizer and those sweet skins. I downloaded some mp3 files from a YouTube playlist using FFMPEG. Unfortunately none of the mp3 worked. I think it was an encoding issue. Then I remembered the last time I faced a media file encoding problem was close to a decade ago. We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software a…

For anyone wanting to dip back into the nostalgia of Winamp and Milkdrop without installing any software, I made https://webamp.org for that exact purpose. It can render real Milkdrop presets and real classic winamp skins directly in the browser. Also, it’s open source: https://github.com/captbaritone/webamp

That’s awesome!

I actually still use Winamp 2 on a daily basis. The visualizations were my favorite part and is one of the major avenues which drove me get into software optimization. It would be fair to say my entire life might be very different if it weren’t for that influence.

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by vmception »

erinaceousjones wrote: post #21
ahmed_ds wrote: post #11

Few weeks ago I actually installed WinAmp because I needed that nostalgia dopamine hit of Milkdrop visualizer and those sweet skins. I downloaded some mp3 files from a YouTube playlist using FFMPEG. Unfortunately none of the mp3 worked. I think it was an encoding issue. Then I remembered the last time I faced a media file encoding problem was close to a decade ago. We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software a…

For the visualizations - Milkdrop is alive and well as projectM (which sometimes comes bundled with VLC, sometimes not?): https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectm Which has a ridiculous level of cross-platform compatibility. I can throw up 3 copies of projectM-pulseaudio on my big 3-monitor work machine and have it listen to any audio sink, I've got it installed on my Android TV and it happily responds to what…

My issue now is that there is no way to stream my music and make these visualizations come up on people’s screens

I want something as simple as spotify over chromecast, that shows these visualizations on the fly

The metric is: can I do this in a hotel room that happens to have a smart tv?

Because it has to pass that bar, not the bar of plugging in a computer to my own tv’s hdmi port

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by alternatetwo »

jraph wrote: post #3

For long, I wished Winamp would be open sourced. I don't understand the benefit of keeping it closed. I'm not sure I would be back to using it though. I'm used to my current player, which already does everything I would expect from Winamp, with a (arguably) worse look but much better UX. Audacious with the Winamp classic interface is also a great Winamp for those who (still) fancy this look and feel.

The source code leaked a while ago, but IIRC not the final version. And it's not like one could really use it.

Re: WinAmp Community Update Project

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Post by na85 »

ahmed_ds wrote: post #11

Few weeks ago I actually installed WinAmp because I needed that nostalgia dopamine hit of Milkdrop visualizer and those sweet skins. I downloaded some mp3 files from a YouTube playlist using FFMPEG. Unfortunately none of the mp3 worked. I think it was an encoding issue. Then I remembered the last time I faced a media file encoding problem was close to a decade ago. We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software a…

>We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software are.

Yeah but neither VLC nor MPC-HC really whips the llama's ass.

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