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As a Googler I was approached by Amazon, and when I started to look at the culture, a photo came out with Jeff Bezos using a door because he was too ,,frugal’’ to buy a desk… I would never join an office where people are proud of that.

this the dude who just bought a 500mm yacht?

Says a lot that they need to trot out an old photo to keep the myth alive.

Re: Amazon more than doubles max base pay to $350k

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As a Googler I was approached by Amazon, and when I started to look at the culture, a photo came out with Jeff Bezos using a door because he was too ,,frugal’’ to buy a desk… I would never join an office where people are proud of that.

this the dude who just bought a 500mm yacht?

That is one tiny yacht. (-;

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About time, given the amount of horror stories coming out of The Forest . More money will definitely increase (at least to a certain extent) how much bullshit people are willing to put up with.

Is The Forest just a play on the name Amazon, or is it a reference to some content about Amazon the company? It's hard to google for.

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We had an office near an Amazon office. I interviewed a lot of people trying to leave Amazon. I don’t ask candidate’s compensation, but a lot of them volunteered it anyway. I was always surprised at how effectively low their comp was in the first few years due to the vesting schedule. The internet is adamant that everyone with FAANG jobs is rolling in TC, but there are a lot of people out there who are getting into F…

Have you considered there is a selection bias here? The people with low TC are the ones who want to leave.

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As a Googler I was approached by Amazon, and when I started to look at the culture, a photo came out with Jeff Bezos using a door because he was too ,,frugal’’ to buy a desk… I would never join an office where people are proud of that.

Amazon today and Amazon in 1996 are two different things.

It may be true, but the perception didn't change much (and the glassdoor scores are still bad).

I love Amazon as a customer though

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#26
Does this affect contractors, or just employees? This year, I noticed Amazon hires international contractors for engineering roles and I don't think I saw that before. I wonder if Amazon is opening up more roles internationally (via contractors), while increasing wages of employees to retain folks in US/Canada/etc. I don't have any data to back this idea up, it's just a thought.

Re: Amazon more than doubles max base pay to $350k

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We had an office near an Amazon office. I interviewed a lot of people trying to leave Amazon. I don’t ask candidate’s compensation, but a lot of them volunteered it anyway. I was always surprised at how effectively low their comp was in the first few years due to the vesting schedule. The internet is adamant that everyone with FAANG jobs is rolling in TC, but there are a lot of people out there who are getting into F…

Pretty much textbook abusive relationship.

Get people feeling that they can't leave because of sunk cost and it's all going to be worth it soon, even though they're actively miserable.

Re: Amazon more than doubles max base pay to $350k

#28

We had an office near an Amazon office. I interviewed a lot of people trying to leave Amazon. I don’t ask candidate’s compensation, but a lot of them volunteered it anyway. I was always surprised at how effectively low their comp was in the first few years due to the vesting schedule. The internet is adamant that everyone with FAANG jobs is rolling in TC, but there are a lot of people out there who are getting into F…

This doesn't match my experience. I guess it depends on the role but for engineers it's well known Amazon has been throwing large sign on bonuses to close the vesting gap for years. For instance I received an offer that was 160 base, 325 cash bonus and 5% of my RSUs for my first year, putting my TC at ~510k. Second year was a slightly smaller bonus, and 15% of my RSUs. Is it possible that when folks were voluntarily…

If you're gunning for a job why would you want to represent your comp as lower?

Re: Amazon more than doubles max base pay to $350k

#29

As a low-ish level MSFT employee I laughed at this line: > The move promises to bring Amazon’s base pay more in line with other big tech companies, including Google, Facebook, Apple and Microsoft. As a ~62/63 (almost senior or senior) at Microsoft my peers at Facebook, Google, and Amazon can easily make literally twice as much compensation a year in salary, stock, and cash bonuses. Microsoft isn't even in the ballpar…

I always thought about MSFT as like working for the government: A somewhat boring, stable, 9-5, predictable workplace, but you're exchanging that for lower total compensation. But you can stay there for an actual career, family and all that.

Whereas the more "fun" companies like Google/Facebook/Amazon will chew you up and spit you out, and you just have to make as much money as possible in your 20s/early 30s before you burn out.

This could be a slightly unfair stereotyping of these companies, but from the people I've spoken to it rings true.

Re: Amazon more than doubles max base pay to $350k

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As a Googler I was approached by Amazon, and when I started to look at the culture, a photo came out with Jeff Bezos using a door because he was too ,,frugal’’ to buy a desk… I would never join an office where people are proud of that.

this the dude who just bought a 500mm yacht?

What is that? A yacht for ants?
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