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Re: Meta threatens to pull Facebook and Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads

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I guess the alternative is some other social media network (possibly European?), which will be more likely to be regulated from an earlier stage in it's lifecycle and therefore to be better behaved in terms of user privacy.

This is probably not going to happen anyway: I am more curious if we even have a viable alternative. If the network has user content, it will need a lot of money to hire people to moderate it. How can that be paid for without violating privacy (ads/selling data)? Or, alternatively, you make sure you store no user data. Or something else that I didn't think of which is why I was asking.

Block cha cha chá chain.

Re: Meta threatens to pull Facebook and Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably not going to happen anyway: I am more curious if we even have a viable alternative. If the network has user content, it will need a lot of money to hire people to moderate it. How can that be paid for without violating privacy (ads/selling data)? Or, alternatively, you make sure you store no user data. Or something else that I didn't think of which is why I was asking.

Block cha cha chá chain.

Maybe, but it would be better if the personal info is not stored outside the computers of the people who agreed to share it amongst eachother than, as far as I understand with blockchain, having it stored everywhere (decentralized) and immutable (forever); while that has it's place to prevent censorship, it is seems not to fit social networks.

Re: Meta threatens to pull Facebook and Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads

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I can live without both. I unfollowed everyone and everything on FB and log in maybe once a week on my PC to check for event invites. (Covid has diminished those too) On Instagram I only followed some old acquitances. Not really anything I could not live without. Stopped using it altogether. Now, I don't know if most people can live without them but I certainly can. Deleted both apps and never looked back. Weird seei…

I wouldn't mind if the EU took a critical look at Tiktok's data use as well.

Re: Meta threatens to pull Facebook and Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads

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It shouldn't take long for some enterprising Europeans to create a far better, less polarising social networking site. It could even be more culturally sensitive and inclusive.

It shouldn't, and yet, why isn't there already one?

There are plenty of innovative tech companies coming from Europe, but most of them get gobbled up by American ones, or never break through internationally.

Interestingly, Netherland was one of the last countries where Facebook finally became the #1 social network; for a long time, a Dutch social network called Hives managed to hold out (over 10 year ago, mind you). And even now, Amazon isn't even in the top-3 of Dutch internet retailers. But I don't see bol.com or Cool Blue expanding internationally.

It should absolutely be possible for European tech companies to compete with American ones, and yet it's not really happening. Where is the big European cloud provider designed around the EU's data protection rules? Why are big European internet retailers all national affairs and not at least EU-wide?

Re: Meta threatens to pull Facebook and Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads

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They probably assumed that they would be the ones writing those regulations, and I think that's a fair assumption for the US market. Monopolies are big fans of regulatory capture, and politicians benefit greatly from them. The EU seems (to me, an outsider) to be more resistant to that sort of influence; at least from corps based in the US.

It helps that EU is still not a single country, so monopolies influence work differently across a collection of countries.

No. They work the same. They just need more people.
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