Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by ansy » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:16 PM UTC

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow.

It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right now. Not to mention the many more cities will have LTE in just a few months.

I suppose that is just a sacrifice Apple will have to make. It will not matter for AT&T or most of its other carriers around the world.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by joeminkie » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:17 PM UTC

54mf wrote: post #16

This is total speculation, and probably easily explainable by any number of things, but: I bought the iPhone 4 the day it came out, subsidized price. I just called *639# to check my upgrade status, and the message says I'm not eligible for a full upgrade now, but "may qualify on 11/25/2011". That isn't any sort of upgrade anniversary for me - at least, I don't think it is - so that's an interesting date.

Sometimes the upgrade date can be moved up if you pay a lot per month because of a larger plan, unlimited sms/data, etc. You pay off your subsidization quicker.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by 54mf » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:22 PM UTC

joeminkie wrote: post #22

54mf wrote: post #16

This is total speculation, and probably easily explainable by any number of things, but: I bought the iPhone 4 the day it came out, subsidized price. I just called *639# to check my upgrade status, and the message says I'm not eligible for a full upgrade now, but "may qualify on 11/25/2011". That isn't any sort of upgrade anniversary for me - at least, I don't think it is - so that's an interesting date.

Sometimes the upgrade date can be moved up if you pay a lot per month because of a larger plan, unlimited sms/data, etc. You pay off your subsidization quicker.

Ah, that could be it. My girlfriend is on my plan as well, so I'm paying a bit more than your average customer.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by mrich » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:30 PM UTC

sonap wrote: post #6

jemeshsu wrote: post #4

Expected: A5 CPU, higher spec CMOS camera. Let's hope it has larger screen, longer battery life, Bluetooth 4, faster 801n. Or maybe NFC chip for wallet type application? I suspect Square people already has some insight. Its more than iPhone 5 event: iOS 5, iCloud, new iPod touch, new iPod refreshes or even new Apple TV. Updated: Not sure why its voted down. I don't work for Apple.

I would trade all of those features for a case design that didn't require me to use a cover without shattering the screen and/or back. I had dropped my 3G/3GS dozens of times with just some scuffs- I've cracked the screen or back on my iPhone 4 thrice :(

did you get a new one each time?

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by brianwhitman » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:31 PM UTC

joeminkie wrote: post #22

54mf wrote: post #16

This is total speculation, and probably easily explainable by any number of things, but: I bought the iPhone 4 the day it came out, subsidized price. I just called *639# to check my upgrade status, and the message says I'm not eligible for a full upgrade now, but "may qualify on 11/25/2011". That isn't any sort of upgrade anniversary for me - at least, I don't think it is - so that's an interesting date.

Sometimes the upgrade date can be moved up if you pay a lot per month because of a larger plan, unlimited sms/data, etc. You pay off your subsidization quicker.

Yes-- i pay $250/mo on my plan (international data & etc) and also bought the iPhone4 subsidized day 1, and my message says I am eligible for an upgrade now.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by ceejayoz » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:33 PM UTC

dr_ wrote: post #8

Personally, I feel product announcements should be made by the head of the team that developed the product in the company. That's what Google does, for example. It gives some well deserved spotlight to that person for their hard work. It also prevents the company from developing an image that it is entirely dependent on one person for all it's product development, be it true or not.

> Personally, I feel product announcements should be made by the head of the team that developed the product in the company. That's what Google does, for example.

At Apple, the head of the team for any major product release is effectively the CEO.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by adolph » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:38 PM UTC

54mf wrote: post #16

This is total speculation, and probably easily explainable by any number of things, but: I bought the iPhone 4 the day it came out, subsidized price. I just called *639# to check my upgrade status, and the message says I'm not eligible for a full upgrade now, but "may qualify on 11/25/2011". That isn't any sort of upgrade anniversary for me - at least, I don't think it is - so that's an interesting date.

Maybe that is the date other carriers get it?

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by ceejayoz » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:42 PM UTC

ansy wrote: post #21

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow. It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right n…

Plenty of iPhone 1 customers gave up 3G. The phone landscape has certainly changed, but I don't see it as that hard a sell.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by nupark2 » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:48 PM UTC

ansy wrote: post #21

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow. It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right n…

I'm a very technology-focused individual, and yet, I only have a passing awareness of what LTE is or why I should care about it. I'm happy enough with 3G as-is, and I'd actually want faster mobile processors before I wanted more bandwidth.

If I'm unfamiliar and ambivalent, I really doubt the public at large is going to even notice.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by Justinwoop » Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 1:49 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #28

ansy wrote: post #21

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow. It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right n…

Plenty of iPhone 1 customers gave up 3G. The phone landscape has certainly changed, but I don't see it as that hard a sell.

Plenty of iPhone customers also give 3G by using the device on T-Mobile. There aren't that many of them though compared to the number of people who switched to AT&T (or Verizon) just as there weren't that many people who bought the iPhone 1.