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Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by yumraj » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:24 AM UTC

version_five wrote: post #10

Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?

Trying to buy as many things that are not made in China as possible, even if I have to spend more since in most cases that means buying a better product, and in others buying fewer products.

I was recently pleasantly surprised to see that the M1 iMac was made in Thailand.

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by artificialLimbs » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:24 AM UTC

chasil wrote: post #16

Permit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You read about horrible things that happened in the 1800s and your takeaway is... we should allow such things to happen again today? Can you elaborate a little bit?

Can we possibly see ourselves as objective judges when our collective history is essentially, from this historic perspective, butchery? What blessed this generation with a wisdom not seen before? What, precisely?

Change. Goddamn, are you serious standing there saying "it's cool, rape and torture them. Our country used to do it a few generations ago." Privileged asshole.

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by outside1234 » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:24 AM UTC

chasil wrote: post #2

I talked about this recently, and I was reminded of the Blackhawk War. I have read Blackhawk's memoirs, because it's such a part of my community, but nobody knows it. There were extenuating circumstances (the British gun-running down the Mississipi). U.S. forces suffered important defeats (Campbell's Island, and the Battle of Credit Island that humbled future president Zachary Taylor.) I learned from another source t…

This sounds like 50 cent army stuff for what it is worth:

https://www.voanews.com/a/who-is-that-chinese-troll/3540663....

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by hervature » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:24 AM UTC

outside1234 wrote: post #14

version_five wrote: post #10

Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?

Not watching the Olympics, deleted TikTok off everyone’s phones in the house, buying more locally made things, etc.

Serious question, does not watching the Olympics hurt them other than signaling? Currently debating getting Peacock for the month but have held out to boycott as well. To me, it seems it is only hurting NBC and, in a strange way, the US.

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by dymk » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:25 AM UTC

hervature wrote: post #24

outside1234 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not watching the Olympics, deleted TikTok off everyone’s phones in the house, buying more locally made things, etc.

Serious question, does not watching the Olympics hurt them other than signaling? Currently debating getting Peacock for the month but have held out to boycott as well. To me, it seems it is only hurting NBC and, in a strange way, the US.

It's a form of protest to NBC and our leadership. Protest is a form of signaling, but it's one that the US takes seriously when enough people do it.

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by seibelj » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:25 AM UTC

version_five wrote: post #10

Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?

I no longer take certain corporate leaders and athletes seriously when they lecture about how horrible the USA is, when they reap huge sums from a criminal nightmare. The hypocrisy is not lost on many people, and over time such hypocrisy erodes trust and support.

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by hetspookjee » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:26 AM UTC

version_five wrote: post #10

Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?

Spending way too much time finding alternatives that are not from china. But my oh my is it difficult not end up at a reseller or something. Often I find myself postponing it for a long time or in the end giving in and still buying something made in Chiba or partially. Also I’m hosting a small Olympics boycot party which is not very popular admittedly but it’s something. And Corona doesn’t help with that either.

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by TulliusCicero » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:26 AM UTC

falseprofit wrote: post #12

Quikinterp wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even weirder is the implication that everyone reading this is going to be from the US, which is simply not true.

The above mentioned deflection is weird, but this implication isn’t there. The article is from NPR.

So the fact that this happens to be a US outlet reporting on it means you can just assume people commenting here are from the states? What?

If someone posts an English article from Deutsche Welle, should we assume everyone commenting on it is German?

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by endisneigh » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:27 AM UTC

PeterisP wrote: post #15

endisneigh wrote: post #8

This kind of forced assimilation can’t be sustainable.

Why not? I mean, it's immoral, but looking at history, forced assimilation has succeeded many times - it's just that it takes a lot of time (century+, certainly more than any individual's lifetime) and when it does, we now think of the assimilated people as an inherent part of the assimilating nation. The currently visible examples are just exceptions, either the ones where it has failed as the "assimilating empire"…

China at some point or another will need immigrants. Assimilation might be effective, but it also might deter immigration. That being said it’s a very productive and lucrative country for poor people in the region so maybe it’s not that big of a deal.

Re: Uyghur kids detail abuse at China's boarding schools in Xinjiang

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Post by jeswin » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 4:28 AM UTC

version_five wrote: post #10

Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?

1. I always check the country of origin before buying. I still buy China-made products when there's absolutely no other option, but whenever there's an alternative made anywhere outside China (whether higher priced, or even slightly inferior), I buy that instead.

2. Going to fund the development (since I can't do this myself) of a browser plugin to help people find non-China goods on Amazon easily. Just two features: Remove Chinese origin items from the search list, and display a warning on the item page when it's made in China.

3. Support Tibetans by buying things they make, visiting their businesses etc.