Sounds almost too good to be true, but here is hoping for the best. > Opus audio decoder (enabled) Considering the track record of codec support, I bet it only works when packaged as CAF, singed by QuickTime, and played during the daytime to a limited audience... I joke, but the amount of gotchas I encounter while working with WebAudio API is mindboggling and reminiscent of good ol' days of IE6. Would you guess that…
> in the century of the fruitbat Off topic, I know, but what in the world does this mean? I did a quick search and couldn't figure it out.
Push Notifications, WebXR, and better PWA support coming to iOS
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Re: Push Notifications, WebXR, and better PWA support coming to iOS
#22I'm excited to see support for Web Push. I realize that most people associate it with spammy sites asking for permission to send you notifications you don't want, but I think it hasn't really been given a chance because it lacks iOS support. Some things that it enables: - Low-friction asynchronous turn-based games (think “Words with Friends” but you don't have to install an app) - Single-purpose alerts (like CamelCam…
I just wish that “web applications” were more clearly distinguished from regular web sites. I hate that a regular website I may tap on a search result would ever want to send me notifications. But, if a site that is clearly more of an “application” to me (like an online spreadsheet or chat app, etc) wants to send me notifications, that could be a useful feature. If there were a more clear delineation between the two,…
Re: Push Notifications, WebXR, and better PWA support coming to iOS
#23I'm excited to see support for Web Push. I realize that most people associate it with spammy sites asking for permission to send you notifications you don't want, but I think it hasn't really been given a chance because it lacks iOS support. Some things that it enables: - Low-friction asynchronous turn-based games (think “Words with Friends” but you don't have to install an app) - Single-purpose alerts (like CamelCam…
I just wish that “web applications” were more clearly distinguished from regular web sites. I hate that a regular website I may tap on a search result would ever want to send me notifications. But, if a site that is clearly more of an “application” to me (like an online spreadsheet or chat app, etc) wants to send me notifications, that could be a useful feature. If there were a more clear delineation between the two,…
Re: Push Notifications, WebXR, and better PWA support coming to iOS
#24I'm excited to see support for Web Push. I realize that most people associate it with spammy sites asking for permission to send you notifications you don't want, but I think it hasn't really been given a chance because it lacks iOS support. Some things that it enables: - Low-friction asynchronous turn-based games (think “Words with Friends” but you don't have to install an app) - Single-purpose alerts (like CamelCam…
1) Tracking preferences overlay that will have a wall of text with "Accept all" and "Customise" buttons that would not be clickable the first few tries.
2) Then you will have a modal that asks for your e-mail address so you can receive the newsletters from the website that you are trying to understand what is this all about.
3) And now you will have a prompt that asks you if you like to receive notifications.
4) Once you are done with all this, half of the page will be covered with links and menus to the other parts of the website and when you scroll menus and overlays with call with action will appear and disappear
5) The rest of the website will be ads.
6) Hopefully somewhere there will be an image or paragraph, you will be able to find it if you still remember why you click on the link
7) if you scroll a bit too much the screen will be blacked out and a call for action(sign up for a newsletter, create account, download the app or buy something) will appear and will have hard to identify close button that won't be working the first few taps.
My point is, the Web is not a garbage because Safari lacks notification or something like that and it is not salvageable without finding a new business model.
Wouldn't be great to have a notification once the new Wordle of the day arrives? Sure. But the business model of it appears to be selling it to the people who love all the steps from 1 to 7 listed above. I don't blame the creator of the game, it's just a testament of the state of the Web business.
I prefer apps for that reason. They also seem to be riddled with full screen ads(especially the casual games are horrible) that make your phone warm BUT you get yo see a high quality screen(App Store, Google Play etc.) where you can read reviews, description and see screenshots before committing into installing the app(Unlike the web apps where you first "install" the app and then you are on your own to figure out what is this all about).
Besides the questionable practices of Apple/Google, there's barely any reason to have browsers with PWA capabilities. I would love it if the web browsers had JS off by default and load JS only when the user explicitly requests it.
Most of the noise comes from Web technologists don't want to learn anything beyond JavaScript.
I hope Apple doesn't cave and if they do, I hope they implement it in a way that improves the experience of the USER. If I wanted an Android experience, I would have used an Android phone, let's keep the iPhone experience like a iPhone experience.
Re: Push Notifications, WebXR, and better PWA support coming to iOS
#25I really can’t see many use cases for web notifications apart from annoying sites trying to bug me. So I’m happy Apple haven’t supported it.
Re: Push Notifications, WebXR, and better PWA support coming to iOS
#26I really hope the WebXR API stuff will come with support for VR headsets in Safari on desktop, and that whatever Apple's rumored VR headset end up being will also support it. WebXR has been great for my app at work, but we're basically locked into the Quest 2 right now because Mozilla dropped the ball on WebXR support. Oculus is the only one doing significant VR work with WebXR in their Oculus Browser, which is a Chr…
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just wish that “web applications” were more clearly distinguished from regular web sites. I hate that a regular website I may tap on a search result would ever want to send me notifications. But, if a site that is clearly more of an “application” to me (like an online spreadsheet or chat app, etc) wants to send me notifications, that could be a useful feature. If there were a more clear delineation between the two,…
A great heuristic would just be only granting notification prompt permission after you’ve installed the PWA to your Home Screen. That shows clear interest by the user in a longer-term relationship with the app, and they could grant other expanded prompt permissions based on that also.
Re: Push Notifications, WebXR, and better PWA support coming to iOS
#29I really can’t see many use cases for web notifications apart from annoying sites trying to bug me. So I’m happy Apple haven’t supported it.